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GUN GROUPS SEE STEADY BLEED INTO MILITIAS
Pravda - English Version ^ | 18 October 2001 | BILL WHITE

Posted on 10/21/2002 5:54:44 PM PDT by tarawa

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1 posted on 10/21/2002 5:54:45 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: tarawa
Bump for later read.
2 posted on 10/21/2002 6:00:37 PM PDT by Kerberos
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To: tarawa
How did the militia movement start?

IMHO it was because the anti-gun nuts forced it to begin. Since they claimed that RKBA pertains only to "militias", voila we have militias.

Whatever it takes.

--Boris

3 posted on 10/21/2002 6:08:29 PM PDT by boris
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To: *bang_list
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4 posted on 10/21/2002 6:09:46 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: tarawa
Pratt is a radical Constitutionalist and Christian who openly mixes his religious beliefs with his politics...

"Radical Constitutionalist" aka "getting it right".

"Openly"? Are you kidding? The horror of it all! /sarcasm

If his religion is genuine, it will mix with every aspect of his life, political or otherwise. And it will do so openly, not just behind closed doors.

5 posted on 10/21/2002 6:12:41 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: tarawa
I believe that this is the first article of militias or even the mention of such that I have seen on FR since Clinton left office. LOL
6 posted on 10/21/2002 6:14:29 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: tarawa
... National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, a pro-black group with origins in the communist movement of the turn of the last century,...

Interesting comment from Pravda, "Official Newspaper" of the former USSR.

7 posted on 10/21/2002 6:21:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring
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To: tarawa
Good read. I find it fair and truthful. (esp. about Mo Dees! et alia)

Also noticed that the author has an excellent command of written English: didn't notice any of the usual idiomatic errors that are currency in the Western press. Pravda....go figure.

If this sample is indicative of the general quality of Russian media, we're gonna have to play catch-up.

8 posted on 10/21/2002 6:21:57 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: tarawa
support of gun rights, opposition to taxation, and opposition to the United Nations and the loss of America’s sovereignty to global corporate rule
Seems perfectly reasonable to me...
9 posted on 10/21/2002 6:24:32 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: tarawa
the Southern Indiana Regional Militia,

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Somehow the existence of such a group doesn't bother me. I'm too old to become involved with such things myself, but I think this is a healthy sign after what happened at Waco.

10 posted on 10/21/2002 6:25:04 PM PDT by RLK
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To: tarawa
Should the American nation fracture, whether due to a massive terrorist attack, the repressive domestic policies of its government, or a combination of both, it is clear that there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of Americans who are already organized in paramilitary armed formation for the goal of seizing power and restoring the Constitutional Republic that they feel progressive liberalism has lost them.

Somebody Gets It. This fracture, this shattering of the American mirror into a thousand disparate shards has been in the works for years. For those with some sense of history, it's the third phase of what Antonio Gramsci envisioned for Western culture - the collapse of the West in general and America in particular into a nightmare of chaos, slaughter and anarchy. Gramsci figured that people would welcome a totalitarian savior with open arms.
Thanks to the 'change agents' our public school system who fill our kids' heads with phony self-esteem and hatred of the American Creed; thanks to the slow and steady poisoning of our intellectual life by the multi-cultural Marxism preached with Stalinist rigor in our universities; thanks to the elites leading the steady march of our culture - art, music, theater, literature - into the gutter; thanks to the hate-filled liars who promote class, race and gender warfare in an effort to drag us down into the kind of tribalism that has kept Africa one of the most brutal and poverty-stricken places on Earth; thanks to each and every empty-headed and soulless monster whose sick fantasies of power and domination over every sphere of human thought and endeavor have caused the deaths of over a hundred of million in the last century alone -

GRAMSCI WAS RIGHT.

A sizable percentage of the American public is now so dumbed down, so rabbit-scared, so entitled that they'd welcome the Man on the White Horse as soon as he rode onstage.

My family and I will resist that eventuality with every means at our disposal.

11 posted on 10/21/2002 6:26:04 PM PDT by Noumenon
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" . . . . it is widely believed that an attempt to confiscate their arms will be the first step in imposing a dictatorship on US citizens."

Thanks for the report. I would only add that It is more widely believed that a successful attempt to confiscate firearms will be the last step in implementing a full-blown dictatorship. It won't last long though. My grandkids told me.

12 posted on 10/21/2002 6:26:15 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: tarawa
Though I have some reservations about some of the editorializing in this article, it is spot on in many areas. A surprisingly candid and honest analysis of the discontent of the "red zone" with the federal leviathan.

Ironic that it comes from Pravda. Look at the treatment ABCNNBCBS or America's print media would have given this subject. Sheesh, even a Russian paper understands the 2nd Amendment. Now who is the real propaganda engine?
13 posted on 10/21/2002 6:27:05 PM PDT by AK2KX
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To: tarawa
Radicalism in defense of the Constitution is no vice.
Silence in it's support is no virtue.
To paraphrase.
14 posted on 10/21/2002 6:29:14 PM PDT by tet68
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To: tarawa
"....Other figures, such as those circulated by the ADL, a Jewish organization which is opposed to the private ownership of firearms...."

They being leftist, I no doubt believe the ADL would support an incrementalist approach to achieving its desired ends. First, I purpose disarming all Jews…..
I’ll have to write a letter to them to get their support.

15 posted on 10/21/2002 6:37:26 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Eastbound
Here in Texas we have a state-sponsored, state approved militia. It is an all volunteer organization, under the command of the Governor,and would be used to keep order in the event the National Guard is activated by the Feds and the state left defenseless. Most of the "State Guard" units in Texas are designated military policy and would back up the locals. Uniforms and weapons are provided by the individual volunteers and the age limits are 17 to 59.
I've thought of joining and attending monthly drills
(ususally held at a National Guard Armory) but there is not one close to where I live. Question: Would membership
in a State approved militia guarantee second amendment rights to keep and bear arms? Anyone know if other states
have these type of units? The Texas State Guard has
a web site for you Texas freepers interested in giving one weekend a month....
16 posted on 10/21/2002 6:38:23 PM PDT by larry h
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To: Noumenon
Sometimes resistance is futile: it's a big world out there, and there are indications (like this article) that the ideas of the Founders are spurring awakenings among formerly oppressed regions and peoples.

I have no desire to combat with reason communitarian zombies who have voluntarily rendered themselves witless , or to spend my happiness, property or life in defense of dirt: the ideas that I revere are portable, and welcome wherever people observe the Golden Rule.

Some of my ancestors came here fleeing tyranny; the time may come when the ancestral homelends entice me back.

I've taken note of numerous places around the globe where U.S. expats have formed little communities. Even in places like Chile, where the restrictions on general freedom are more severe than ours, these folks are relitively more free than we: these countries' governments are very vertical in their effect, and it's easy to remain out of the searchlight of scrutiny. Here, my neighbor is calling the authorities when I have a pile of horse dung higher than the town ordinances allow. I'm inclined to run away.

17 posted on 10/21/2002 6:55:09 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: tarawa
The author is an independent candidate for Maryland's House of Delegates from the 39th district in Montgomery County. He posts updates on an e-mail list I get, appears to be running an excellent campaign, and believes he has a good shot at winning one of the district's 3 seats. I see no reason to disbelieve him. White has connections with some scary groups, has some unusual philosophical leanings, and calls himself a Libertarian Socialist (I still don't see how that's not an oxymoron), but don't let all that repulse you too much. With a few notable exceptions, his platform (below) could just as easily come from a conservative/libertarian, and given the likely alternatives in socialist Mont. Co., I think he's worth supporting. His site is www.white2002.com :

The private right to own and carry an unregulated firearm, and to use firearms in self-defense.
The elimination of all forms of income taxation.
An end to all forms of war and imperialism.
The preservation of all Constitutionally guaranteed civil liberties, including the right to habeas corpus, the preservation of free speech and assembly, the right to be secure in property, and the right to be free from torture and cruel and unusual punishment.
The elimination of usury and the end of the role of finance capital in the economy. The restoration of the gold and silver standard.
The elimination of the corporation as an economic entity, and the end of corporate globalization.
The creation of political diversity through the protection of the rights of third party and independent political candidates and voters.
The expulsion of the United Nations from New York, and a withdrawal of the US from the UN.
Private, decentralized ownership of the media, and a breakup of all media monopolies dependent on cable, tv and radio licenses.
The elimination of the public educational system and all forms of government interference in the raising of our youth.
The elimination of the juvenile psychiatric system.
The elimination of policing forces under the control of the executive branch of the government.
The preservation of Traditional Indo-European cultural values and the promotion of Traditional religion.

18 posted on 10/21/2002 6:55:41 PM PDT by ForOurFuture
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To: DuncanWaring; lavaroise; EditorTFP; bat-boy; Noswad
And they are overtly trying to do a number of things in this article:

1. Gain the favor of those in militias, or, those who are borderline and are getting frustrated with the urban liberals.

2. Incite even more divisiveness in the US than already exists.

3. Identify some sort of class warfare in which the rural middle class white is the oppressed and the urban liberals (on both extremes, the wealthy and their underclass interest groups) are the oppressors.

All of this points to the worst sort of foreign influence; that which wants to send the very force of good in the USA, those who typically voted for Bush in 2000, and those allied with them, to their own destruction in a hail of would be CW2 gunfire. Now why would the Russians want to do that?

19 posted on 10/21/2002 6:56:44 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: tet68
Well said.
20 posted on 10/21/2002 7:01:40 PM PDT by Barry Goldwater
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