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Moose..."Call Back...Message Unclear"
Radio | 10/21/02 | Moose

Posted on 10/21/2002 1:25:12 PM PDT by woofie

Moose..."Call Back...Message Unclear"... Im a little unclear myself.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
Once it was apparent they were dealing with a spree killer

Three simple questions:
1. Do you believe we are dealing with a "spree killer" or a terrorist cell?
2. Do you believe Chief Moose is "in charge" of this investigation?
3. Do you believe Chief Moose is mismanaging this case for personal ego gratification?

181 posted on 10/21/2002 6:32:29 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: greasyHeart
FLASH:

Chief Moose put his top investigator on the case! Here is what has been overheard:

"This IZ Chief Inspector Clouseau speaking on the pheaun."

182 posted on 10/21/2002 6:34:07 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ErnBatavia
Well, a closeup of that dodge van this morning showed that it had a Mexican flag decal in the rear window.
Some J-O called in WRVA radio today and said "IT HAD AN NRA and BUSH STICKER ON THE BACK ALSO!" BOY did they run with that!
183 posted on 10/21/2002 6:45:48 PM PDT by JOE6PAK
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
...but that they now have information that we are entering a new and dangerous phase of this whole game."

I heard this, as well. What does this mean? More attacks on a school? A mall? How would a LONE sniper be capable of 'escalating' his reign of terror? I don't like the sounds of this at all...



184 posted on 10/21/2002 6:57:35 PM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: woofie
I am confused.

I thought the the note left at the last attack said something about entering a "new and difficult time."

Is the this information from the killer, news or police?

185 posted on 10/21/2002 7:00:14 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: Phantom Lord
What am I missing here?

What you are missing is that the "message" at the Ponderosa wasn't 'BANG + Telephone Number', but a much longer communication from the Sniper TEAM detailing threats, etc., and the reason the MOOSE said it was garbled, is because the Phone message was IMHO, deliberately 'speech processed' to defeat VOICE PRINTING.

Kind of like using a designer Type Font designed to defeat a TEMPEST® electronic attack.

These guys [and Gals] are pretty da*med sophisticated.

186 posted on 10/21/2002 7:02:23 PM PDT by Lael
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To: Lucas1
"... we are entering a new and dangerous phase of this whole game. "

I've been surfing through the cable shows and the experts and hosts seem to be close to hysteria. Each of them seems to have a doomsday scenario for the sniper- Cliff van Zandt is about to levitate out of his seat.There is definitely a more fevered pitch to the experts predictions tonight.Whether that is based on fact or a group frenzy,it cannot be reassuring to the residents of the area.
187 posted on 10/21/2002 7:03:58 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Kerberos
What did you mean by "Guess we are on our own now"?
188 posted on 10/21/2002 7:05:30 PM PDT by TankerKC
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To: Woodstock
The killer
189 posted on 10/21/2002 7:06:14 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
From what NBC news said...the news media knows what was in the note and has the information. They were told not to report it...and apparently the media is actually listening. The guy on NBC news said they had the information but were not going to release it. Makes you wonder what they know...and why the public is not being told. But I guess we have to trust the police on this one?
190 posted on 10/21/2002 7:08:18 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Lucas1
I get really uncomfortable when the press has info and doesn't release it to the public . . . like on election day when they already know the outcome based on the exit polling . . . you can just see it in their eyes what the results will be, and they can't resist turning a few subtle phrases here or there, to make it clear they know something we don't . . . I am trying to be respectful of the LEOs, but something just doesn't sit right when Peter Jennings knows something potentially catastrophic and the rest of us are sitting here in the dark . . .
191 posted on 10/21/2002 7:17:51 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: LikeLight
As long as Jennings stays as ground zero, he can keep all the info he wants
192 posted on 10/21/2002 7:20:34 PM PDT by MTCJK
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To: RobFromGa
1. Do you believe we are dealing with a "spree killer" or a terrorist cell?
2. Do you believe Chief Moose is "in charge" of this investigation?
3. Do you believe Chief Moose is mismanaging this case for personal ego gratification?

Who said anything about terrorist's your hat either has too much tin foil in it, or it's on too tight. Really!

I don't believe anything about this case except people are getting killed.

Chief Moose is in this bad situation because of his first bad decision, not to use a PIO to deal with the press. There are consequences for our actions, the chief being an object of ridicule now is a consequence of not using a PIO in the begining of the case.

193 posted on 10/21/2002 7:24:45 PM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
Who said anything about terrorist's

Me, I asked you a question. 3 questions actually. You didn't answer any of them. You just regurgitated the exact same things you said before.

And tin-foil makes me hot, I use standard aluminum screening material the last few years, and it must be snug to work, so yes it is a bit tight...

194 posted on 10/21/2002 7:30:25 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: woofie
Maybe the cops should put out word for the gunman: "For a good time call 1-900-97-MOOSE."
195 posted on 10/21/2002 7:39:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: woofie
Me thinks the shooter outfoxed Moose & Co. Moose thought this would be just like the movies. The guy calls, they trace his call. SWAT teams swoop in and viola Moose for DC mayor!

Moose isn't quite up with times. The shooter probably called from a stolen cellphone, an untraceable hotmail account\stolen credit card via Net2Phone or, an overseas accomplice called.

196 posted on 10/21/2002 7:40:32 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RobFromGa
Rob,

I answered all 3 the best I could with the facts available.

I decline to speculate, but reserve the right to be skeptical.
197 posted on 10/21/2002 7:42:14 PM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: RobFromGa
and #;o)
198 posted on 10/21/2002 7:43:39 PM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: TankerKC
"What did you mean by "Guess we are on our own now?"

What I meant is that it has always been my understanding that one of the Constitutionally valid functions of the government is to provide for the common security of the people. Unfortunately, it seems that idea has gone out the window many years ago.

As an example, when the events of 9/11 occurred, which incidentally I first became aware of on FR, the only thing that surprised me about it is that people were surprised that it had happen. These Islamic radicals had only been telling us for the last twenty some odd years what their objective goals were, and during that time had steadily been moving toward achieving those objectives. I am using the demarcation point as the take over of the embassy in Iran that started the final surge that got us to where we are today.

During that time, was our government taking any steps to eliminate that threat, or at the minimum reduce it? No we were more concerned with being engaged in social engineering and creating a multicultural society through redistribution of wealth, which is not a reasonability of the government under the Constitution. All the time leaving our boarders’ wide open, our immigration policies a joke, and in general exposing our people to immense harm.

Now in the current events that are playing out, our government is trying to convince us that what we have on the loose is a crazed homegrown domestic terrorist that is currently cutting down people in the seat of government. And again our enemies have been telling us for a lest the last six months that they will be bringing the fight to destroy us to our home, through assignations, drive by shootings, home break ins and other assorted urban assault tactics. In addition, when you look at the events that are going on in other parts of the world, the Bali bombings, the bombings in the Philippines, the assault on our troops in Kuwait, the bombing of the French tanker, and other such events in recent weeks. It is not a big stretch to assume that the terrorist are starting to launch a full offensive world wide.

Does our government appear to be paying attention? Not from what I am seeing. They appear to not even be willing to consider the idea that what we are seeing played out in front of us could possible be an assault on our country by foreign terrorist. Personally, I believe that they are keeping information from us because the truth is they have no idea as to how to deal with it, and conversely the information that we are getting is non-existent. It could be that they think that if the truth were know that it could set off a huge panic in our country, or it could be because it is just not politically feasible to do so at the present time. What ever the reason I remained convinced that we are not getting the full story and that is leaving us even more venerable.

Moreover, even if this is not foreign terrorism, that type of terrorism is coming and probably sooner than later. If what I am seeing being played out now is any indication of what will happen when it does get here. Good sense indicates that I will have to rely on myself for survival as opposed to the government’s ability to provide it.

That’s what I mean by it looks like we’re on our own.

199 posted on 10/21/2002 7:46:56 PM PDT by Kerberos
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To: woofie
Moose should keep his trap shut, he does nothing but inflame people. Let the CIA take over this is definitely terrorists and it's happening all over the country but they aren't telling us the whole truth.
200 posted on 10/21/2002 7:49:32 PM PDT by John Lenin
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