Posted on 10/21/2002 1:25:12 PM PDT by woofie
Moose..."Call Back...Message Unclear"... Im a little unclear myself.
Three simple questions:
1. Do you believe we are dealing with a "spree killer" or a terrorist cell?
2. Do you believe Chief Moose is "in charge" of this investigation?
3. Do you believe Chief Moose is mismanaging this case for personal ego gratification?
Chief Moose put his top investigator on the case! Here is what has been overheard:
"This IZ Chief Inspector Clouseau speaking on the pheaun."
I heard this, as well. What does this mean? More attacks on a school? A mall? How would a LONE sniper be capable of 'escalating' his reign of terror? I don't like the sounds of this at all...
I thought the the note left at the last attack said something about entering a "new and difficult time."
Is the this information from the killer, news or police?
What you are missing is that the "message" at the Ponderosa wasn't 'BANG + Telephone Number', but a much longer communication from the Sniper TEAM detailing threats, etc., and the reason the MOOSE said it was garbled, is because the Phone message was IMHO, deliberately 'speech processed' to defeat VOICE PRINTING.
Kind of like using a designer Type Font designed to defeat a TEMPEST® electronic attack.
These guys [and Gals] are pretty da*med sophisticated.
Who said anything about terrorist's your hat either has too much tin foil in it, or it's on too tight. Really!
I don't believe anything about this case except people are getting killed.
Chief Moose is in this bad situation because of his first bad decision, not to use a PIO to deal with the press. There are consequences for our actions, the chief being an object of ridicule now is a consequence of not using a PIO in the begining of the case.
Me, I asked you a question. 3 questions actually. You didn't answer any of them. You just regurgitated the exact same things you said before.
And tin-foil makes me hot, I use standard aluminum screening material the last few years, and it must be snug to work, so yes it is a bit tight...
Moose isn't quite up with times. The shooter probably called from a stolen cellphone, an untraceable hotmail account\stolen credit card via Net2Phone or, an overseas accomplice called.
What I meant is that it has always been my understanding that one of the Constitutionally valid functions of the government is to provide for the common security of the people. Unfortunately, it seems that idea has gone out the window many years ago.
As an example, when the events of 9/11 occurred, which incidentally I first became aware of on FR, the only thing that surprised me about it is that people were surprised that it had happen. These Islamic radicals had only been telling us for the last twenty some odd years what their objective goals were, and during that time had steadily been moving toward achieving those objectives. I am using the demarcation point as the take over of the embassy in Iran that started the final surge that got us to where we are today.
During that time, was our government taking any steps to eliminate that threat, or at the minimum reduce it? No we were more concerned with being engaged in social engineering and creating a multicultural society through redistribution of wealth, which is not a reasonability of the government under the Constitution. All the time leaving our boarders wide open, our immigration policies a joke, and in general exposing our people to immense harm.
Now in the current events that are playing out, our government is trying to convince us that what we have on the loose is a crazed homegrown domestic terrorist that is currently cutting down people in the seat of government. And again our enemies have been telling us for a lest the last six months that they will be bringing the fight to destroy us to our home, through assignations, drive by shootings, home break ins and other assorted urban assault tactics. In addition, when you look at the events that are going on in other parts of the world, the Bali bombings, the bombings in the Philippines, the assault on our troops in Kuwait, the bombing of the French tanker, and other such events in recent weeks. It is not a big stretch to assume that the terrorist are starting to launch a full offensive world wide.
Does our government appear to be paying attention? Not from what I am seeing. They appear to not even be willing to consider the idea that what we are seeing played out in front of us could possible be an assault on our country by foreign terrorist. Personally, I believe that they are keeping information from us because the truth is they have no idea as to how to deal with it, and conversely the information that we are getting is non-existent. It could be that they think that if the truth were know that it could set off a huge panic in our country, or it could be because it is just not politically feasible to do so at the present time. What ever the reason I remained convinced that we are not getting the full story and that is leaving us even more venerable.
Moreover, even if this is not foreign terrorism, that type of terrorism is coming and probably sooner than later. If what I am seeing being played out now is any indication of what will happen when it does get here. Good sense indicates that I will have to rely on myself for survival as opposed to the governments ability to provide it.
Thats what I mean by it looks like were on our own.
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