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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Monday, Oct. 21, 2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 21, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/21/2002 4:29:22 AM PDT by Peach

Let's keep a live commentary thread going again today. The FBI Tip # is 1-888-324-9800.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dc; maryland; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
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To: yukong
That AQ guy being held in Belgium spoke of a three-man sniping team.
1,061 posted on 10/21/2002 3:39:19 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Peach
"The sniper is using a voice changer? Are these easily obtainable?"

Very easily obtainable - from between about $30 to a pretty good one for $100 or $150.
1,062 posted on 10/21/2002 3:39:24 PM PDT by Route66
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To: Route66
Thanks, Route66.
1,063 posted on 10/21/2002 3:40:01 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Route66
Less than ten bucks at the local Cutlery Shop...
1,064 posted on 10/21/2002 3:40:21 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Peach
Yes you can buy one right here....

Voice Changers ....$19.95"

1,065 posted on 10/21/2002 3:40:22 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Peach
I don't know... I just picked up parts of the MSNBC update at 5:30pm... Something about the police did not take the call at the correct time or missed making the call at the correct time. Then after the 1/2 hour update... on the Abrams Report, they said that only about 25% of the call was understandable due to it sounding like the perp is using a voice changer.
1,066 posted on 10/21/2002 3:41:03 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Dog
Thanks, Dog. So do we think it changes things that the shooter used one? Why is the shooter afraid someone will hear his voice? Accent, voice prints if previous military, ideas?
1,067 posted on 10/21/2002 3:41:46 PM PDT by Peach
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To: poppyseed
You may have a point. But, I would counter with this, just to be the devils advocate, as you must do in evaluating these. I have been thinking about the last two shoots. The Home Depot shoot was the most daring of all. From what I can tell, the shooter had to have been in the garage. Just too must terrain around to make for a good shoot unless he was in the garage. That shoot could have been meant to show that you are not safe, anywhere. Not even in a location that is arguably "indoors". I haven't made much about the fact that someone was with the victim at the last too. Again, I think the primary thing that is reconned by the shooter is opportunity, and impact. He is making a statement. That statement is "you aren't safe". Not it is "even indoors, you are not safe". I need to think about the victim's companion theory as a new need of the shooter.

Will post more later, need to get on the drive home, via the drugstore.

Will see you all later this evening. Will think some more.
1,068 posted on 10/21/2002 3:41:48 PM PDT by yukong
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To: Peach
The sniper is using a voice changer? Are these easily obtainable?

From your friendly neighborhood eBay. Cheap, too. I'd imagine better ones are available from other sources. Available to Everyman, I mean, and not just to terrorists and other bad guys.

1,069 posted on 10/21/2002 3:41:57 PM PDT by poppyseed
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To: Route66; aristeides; LisaFab
If they are using a voice changer ....they really thought this thing out...
1,070 posted on 10/21/2002 3:42:27 PM PDT by Dog
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To: brigette
Thanks for your post; I don't get MSNBC and hadn't heard about the voice changer aspect of the call to police.
1,071 posted on 10/21/2002 3:42:54 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Don't know if anyone posted this...but NBC news said that they are holding back information at the request of investigators...but that they now have information that we are entering a new and dangerous phase of this whole game.

Did anyone else hear this?

1,072 posted on 10/21/2002 3:44:03 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Dog
Deep, growling monster voice; high-pitched kiddie or alien voice; & metallic, echoing robot voice.

Hi... this is the alien voiced sniper....
1,073 posted on 10/21/2002 3:44:06 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Shooting locations are owned by major Bush supporters:
HomeDepot (Marcus)
Michaels (Wyle)
Ponderosa, S&A, Bennigans, Bonanza (Wyle and others)
4 big oil companies.

9/21 Bush speech to people on getting SH
10/1 Sniping starts
10/6-10/7 Congress supports Bush, snipper kills child

QED SH/BL

1,074 posted on 10/21/2002 3:44:29 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Lucas1
Didn't hear it on NBC but last night Fox was reporting they were holding info back at request of LEO and that LEO's said were were entering new and dangerous phase. Isn't that reassuring?
1,075 posted on 10/21/2002 3:44:52 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Sacajaweau
Wonder if there's going to be another shooting tonite due to the screwup today??? I hope NOT!!!..
1,076 posted on 10/21/2002 3:45:31 PM PDT by Bella
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To: John Jamieson
Not to quibble but think the shooting started 10/2 and that your theories, while interesting, are a stretch. Flesh it out a little and perhaps you'll be onto something.
1,077 posted on 10/21/2002 3:46:02 PM PDT by Peach
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To: brigette
Something about the police did not take the call at the correct time or missed making the call at the correct time.

Just how are they getting this info. The media just reports on too much. They actually go beyond their duties. Actually after this is all over, we should boycott them till they learn their lesson. But then they probably just pack up and move overseas like some of the other companies have.

1,078 posted on 10/21/2002 3:47:00 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
You're right; the media is a big part of the problem here. They need to be much more careful what they report. This evening one of the news stations reported that LEO's think the shooter went outside his normal shooting field to avoid the military planes, because the media was so open in reporting how far and what the planes see. That's changed - the military isn't talking to the press about this at all.
1,079 posted on 10/21/2002 3:48:35 PM PDT by Peach
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To: brigette
I heard that too. Sounded like they did not get to a phone in time. MSNBC also reporting that Nachman has learned from a "source" that the phone where the Mexican was arrested was the one with the number that the sniper had given. Could be, but that sounds more like one of Nachman's befuddled conclusions.
1,080 posted on 10/21/2002 3:49:47 PM PDT by per loin
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