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Chief Moose Asks Sniper to Call Them Back - Beltway Sniper left a note at Restaurant last night!
FOX News Channel | October 20, 2002 | FOX News Channel

Posted on 10/20/2002 4:10:41 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Chief Moose Asks Sniper to Call Them Back
Beltway Sniper attempted contact last night !

Very short press conference where he simply states that the Beltway Sniper attempted contact and Chief Moose requested that he call them back.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltwaysniper; moose
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To: aristeides
Haven't seen it. But it makes sense that they would be leaving messages at all the scenes. Why only leave one?

I'm also thinking they could be trying to get Rahman out. Since the feds busted up the Lynn Stewart/Satter/Yousry conduit, he probably hasn't been able to get any messages out. I suppose they could even be asking for both. Looks to me like we may have made a serious dent in their leadership.

The bad news is, if I'm right, we may be giving in to their demands.

161 posted on 10/20/2002 4:52:27 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: marajade
A cell phone can be triangulated. it's a simple matter of determing the cell site and then narrowing it down using the system
162 posted on 10/20/2002 4:53:13 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: aristeides; Phil V.; Socks C.; Lion's Cub
Somebody reported on a thread here within the past couple of days that the current National Enquirer has an article saying that the sniper has been leaving notes at several of his recent shooting sites. Has anybody seen the article?

gotta ask the expert. how 'bout it socks?

163 posted on 10/20/2002 4:53:15 PM PDT by thinden
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To: aristeides
Al Qaeda??? I knew it all along! That does it, I'm getting me one of these.
164 posted on 10/20/2002 4:53:42 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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To: Bogey78O
If I had a disposable cell phone,I could ride around the beltway as I talked and the only thing you would know is that I was somewhere on the beltway with thousand of other commuters.
165 posted on 10/20/2002 4:54:25 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Bogey78O
Okay... So tell me something I don't know already...
166 posted on 10/20/2002 4:54:36 PM PDT by marajade
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To: MeeknMing
Moose is a comedian.

Talk about the Keystone Cops.

167 posted on 10/20/2002 4:54:48 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: aristeides
Aren't lots of the people in AQ nuts on power plays?

Could still be AQ, I suppose. But would they leave a phone number to call?

168 posted on 10/20/2002 4:54:54 PM PDT by EarlyBird
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To: All
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66161,00.html

Moose Seeks Contact With Person Who Left Number, Police Assume Shooting the Work of Sniper

Sunday, October 20, 2002

ASHLAND, Va.  — Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose on Sunday said a message had been left for authorities at the Ponderosa restaurant where a 37-year-old man was downed by a single shot to the abdomen Saturday night -- and asked the person who left it to contact law enforcement.

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night. You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk to you. Call us at the number you provided. Thank you," he said.

Moose, who asked that the media carry the message "clearly," did not take questions and did not elaborate. It was not clear how or where the message was left, who might have left it or for whom it was intended.

Investigators acting on the assumption that the Washington-area sniper has expanded his geographic range searched for clues at the parking lot shooting scene Sunday, while doctors said the critically injured victim has a reasonable chance of recovery.

Dozens of officers completed a methodical, inch-by-inch search of a wooded area near the Ponderosa. Investigators said little about what, if anything, they had found.

Some witnesses said they heard a shot coming from a wooded area near the restaurant, but nobody reported seeing the shooter.

If the shooting is linked to the sniper attacks that have killed nine and injured two since Oct. 2, it would be the first weekend attack and the farthest the sniper has traveled -- about 85 miles south of Washington.

The longest previous distance from the Washington area was Spotsylvania County, about 50 miles south of Washington. It would also break the longest lull between shootings, about five days.

Former FBI profiler Clinton Van Zandt said Saturday's shooting, if related, could show the killer's approach is changing in response to law enforcement tactics. For instance, reports last week that military surveillance planes would be used in the Washington suburbs probably prompted the sniper to move farther away, he said.

And since much had been made about the weekend lulls, "I think he reacted to that," Van Zandt said.

The most recent shooting confirmed sniper attack was the Monday night slaying of FBI analyst Linda Franklin outside a Home Depot store in Falls Church.

Residents were on edge in Ashland, a town of about 6,500. At the Virginia Center Commons mall, about seven miles from the shooting, a normally busy food court sat half-empty Sunday. Shopper Nancy Elrod said she almost had been too afraid to come.

"We certainly felt sorry about all the people up north who were nervous and now it's down here and we're nervous too," said Elrod, 45.

Police said the victim, whose name was not released, and his wife were traveling and stopped in Ashland for gas and food. His wife told authorities the shot sounded like a car backfiring and said her husband took about three steps before collapsing.

Authorities were on the lookout early on for a white van with a ladder rack. Ashland Police Chief Frederic Pleasants Jr. said after interviewing witnesses, however, police had no suspects and no clear description of a vehicle that could be placed at the scene.

The man underwent surgery for three hours Saturday night at MCV Hospitals in Richmond, hospital spokeswoman Pam Lepley said. Doctors said hey did not try to remove the bullet in the first round of surgery, but would try to do so in a second round expected Sunday night.

Doctors had to remove part of the man's stomach, half of his pancreas and his spleen, said Dr. Rao Ivatury, the hospital's director of trauma and critical care. The man was conscious but unable to talk because he was on a ventilator, he said.

"The prognosis is still guarded, but since he is a very healthy man and he is very young, the chances are fair to good, I would say," Ivatury said.

Unless the bullet is removed, officials can't conclusively determine whether it was fired from the same rifle used in the 11 previous assaults.

However, it may be possible at least to determine if the bullet is the same size, .223-caliber, that was used in the earlier attacks, said Dr. Paul B. Ferrara, director of Virginia's Division of Forensic Science.

"It depends on the condition of the bullet and how badly fragmented it is," Ferrara said. "Sometimes a firearms expert can assess or approximate the caliber of weapon by looking at X-rays from different angles."

Russ Brickey, 26, a maintenance mechanic, said he had eaten at the Ponderosa many times and couldn't believe this type of violence had made its way to Ashland.

"This is like a high-tech Mayberry," Brickey said as he stood across the street from the restaurant. "Stuff like this isn't supposed to happen here -- period."

School superintendents from three counties and the city of Richmond said schools would open Monday, but with lockdowns at individual schools and possible restrictions on outdoor activities. No specifics were released. School officials said they planned to address Friday football games and future activities later.

Authorities in Maryland, meanwhile, on Sunday continued testing a shell casing found in a white rental truck to determine if it could be linked to the sniper attacks. Police said it would be at least Monday before they could announce whether the casing is connected to the shootings.

A source close to the investigation, however, said Sunday that "it has nothing to do with this case." The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, would not confirm reports that the shell was .30-caliber, a different size from the sniper's bullets, but said: "It's got caliber problems, it's got age problems."

The shell casing was found in a car seized at a rental agency near Dulles International Airport in Virginia, authorities said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

169 posted on 10/20/2002 4:55:17 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: eastforker
they can narrow down to the point where they can record the conversation...
170 posted on 10/20/2002 4:55:26 PM PDT by marajade
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To: aristeides
If the sniper is leaving "messages" at other crime scenes and all of the LEO know about, they obviously haven't ruled out the possibility of ME terrorists. They are certainly taking it seriously enough to speak to captured terrorists in Europe and Gitmo..........

Maybe the messages suggest that the sniper is a ME terrorist?
171 posted on 10/20/2002 4:55:29 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: CharacterCounts
Because trying to communicate with the police is typical of a serial killer. It does not fit the profile of a ME Terrorist.

We have been told ad nauseum by the talking heads that the reason this isn't Al Qaeda, or other ME terrorists, is because they haven't communicated. They tell us that terrorists always take credit for their actions -- and point to the common terror occurences in Israel as evidence.

And now you say this...

I'm so confused.

172 posted on 10/20/2002 4:55:32 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Endeavor
How about being a little more gracious. Peach has been doing yeoman's duty on the sniper coverage since shortly after the first shooting.
173 posted on 10/20/2002 4:55:32 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: KsSunflower
None really. The best you can do is initiate several unlinked calls then go 3 way. That way it would take time to decipher the string of calls made.
174 posted on 10/20/2002 4:56:17 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: Lion's Cub
"we may be giving in to their demands."

What else is new?

175 posted on 10/20/2002 4:56:21 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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To: AntiDemocrat
The way Moose talks makes me crazy, too. And so does that former DC detective that Greta has on all the time. He not only speaks terribly, he speaks loudly, too.
176 posted on 10/20/2002 4:56:49 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: aristeides
Moose made this statement in person? Even though he said there would be no statements before Monday?

Yes. CNN has been following instructions and has played it several times.

The original press conference was about 7pm. He just came out, said his bit, and walked away.

177 posted on 10/20/2002 4:57:26 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: marajade
George Washington hated currency speculators...
178 posted on 10/20/2002 4:57:34 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: ExSoldier
Why then, the complicated phone scheme? If that were the case, they could provide THEIR #. Or they could call the tip-line.

I'm pretty certain that this is either the shooter, or someone working with him.
179 posted on 10/20/2002 4:58:15 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Lion's Cub
The bad news is, if I'm right, we may be giving in to their demands.

Wouldn't the proper response be to execute Rahman? Is there no way to try him for participating in a conspiracy to commit these sniper murders (presumably a capital charge)?

I wish that, in the future, when we sentence these guys to prison sentences, we include a suspended death sentence that gets unsuspended if anybody tries to spring them.

180 posted on 10/20/2002 4:58:52 PM PDT by aristeides
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