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California Transexual Teen Murdered
The Argus (Fremont California) ^ | October 19, 2002 | Robert Airoldi

Posted on 10/20/2002 8:44:52 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe

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To: Thinkin' Gal
"...He told police that Magidson and Merel had a previous sexual encounter with Araujo before anyone suspected he wasn't a woman, according to the records...

There's the missing piece of the puzzle we could only speculate about in the other thread.

If he seduced sexually normal men and then they're confronted with the reality that they've been 'had' by a homo, I can't imagine anyone being genuinely surprised that it would end badly.

Just how badly was clearly a function of his killer's capacity for violence. A fact that wouldn't have been lost on the cross-dressing faggot had he been blessed with an IQ greater than that of a trilobite.

Zero sympathy for the filthy perv here, T. Gal.

(Pervert apologists should note that their cheesy 'tolerance' arguments will be dismissed out of hand. Only those with time to waste should bother flaming me.)

61 posted on 10/20/2002 4:44:31 PM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: TheOtherOne
normal people can exist in a room with people they don't like without murdering them.

A point sadly lost on many here . . .

62 posted on 10/20/2002 5:03:46 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Lynching in certain well defined circumstances is acceptable social behavior and acceptable political governance. The only real risk being misidentification.

Lynching = Murder

Are you sure your happy living in the USA? The Middle East may be more to your liking.

63 posted on 10/20/2002 5:04:35 PM PDT by MilspecRob
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To: Bon mots
They should turn those boys loose. They are less of a threat to society than the freak who deceived them.

These guys KILLED someone . . . was this point lost on you?

64 posted on 10/20/2002 5:07:35 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: martian_22
"Murder, perversion, drugs, alchohol, hate, deception, sexual rage, twisted corrupted youths. An article that speaks to the depths today's society has sunk to. "

I very strongly disagree. This is one very extremely isolated extreme incident and is in absolutely no way characteristic of youth today. Yes there are also a lot of messed up kids, just as there has been over so many years. Please don't indict the whole of society over something like this.

65 posted on 10/20/2002 5:09:51 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: MilspecRob
They do not lynch in the mideast, they use the sword.
66 posted on 10/20/2002 5:17:45 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: 1rudeboy
By the way the motto of the State of Montana is taken from that of a vigilance committee. In San Francisco no innocent man was ever hung.
67 posted on 10/20/2002 5:23:08 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I doubt that it is that easy.

1. It unlikely that a transsexual will have any offspring, because they detest the male role.

2. Furthermore, it does not appear to be a readily predictable genetic trait. It could actually be a congenital development, such as exposure to some chemical in the environment.

As for the women with androgen insensitivity syndrome, they are sterile to begin with. The trait is sex-linked, which means they inherit it from their mother's side of the family.

68 posted on 10/20/2002 5:25:43 PM PDT by punster
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To: TheOtherOne
He instigated his own beating, killing, and being burried by showing up in a skirt?
 
He instigated violent repercussions by deceiving the boys about his true sex, deception even to the point of engaging in "relations" with them.
 
He didn't deserve it, but he instigated it. The accused committed a horrible crime, but it wasn't a "hate crime".

69 posted on 10/20/2002 5:26:47 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: punster
You are probably correct. I did assume it was passed through the male line. However, the genetic sciences have really progressed in the last 40 years and who knows detection methods may develop(Assuming it is not social in origin as there does seem to be a rise in this type of pathology as societies decay-Rome comes to mind)
70 posted on 10/20/2002 5:32:30 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AnnaZ
He didn't deserve it, but he instigated it. The accused committed a horrible crime, but it wasn't a "hate crime".

So the murdered boy commited a horrible crime, nice conclusion from the facts. Way to ignore the much more heinous crime of cold blooded murder by 3 men. Why allign yourself with bigoted murderers? You don't need to accept cross-dressing, but you should condemn murder without reservation or condition.

71 posted on 10/20/2002 5:54:31 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: AnnaZ
ignore me. I did not comprehend very well.
72 posted on 10/20/2002 5:56:03 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: TheOtherOne
I did not comprehend very well.

"Can you hear me now? Good."
 
;^)

73 posted on 10/20/2002 6:04:59 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: DWSUWF
If he seduced sexually normal men and then they're confronted with the reality that they've been 'had' by a homo, I can't imagine anyone being genuinely surprised that it would end badly.

Wasn't there a case on Sally Jesse or Sleeza where they set up a guy to think that some girl from his past had a crush on him and wanted to tell him on live TV -- and then it turned out to be a man -- and he proceeded to later kill the guy?

Playing games with people's sexuality can be extremely dangerous. None of the people in this story are to be admired, honestly -- including the people making the pathetic teenaged transvestite out to be some kind of icon. SSAD sexually-confused lives don't often end well, and his little sexual shell game caused the end of his life, plus the ruination of three others. I pray for his soul and for those of his murderers.
74 posted on 10/20/2002 8:19:03 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: TheOtherOne
There was no sexual encounter between any of them. They found out he was a boy dressed as a girl and simply beat, killed, and buried him.

Read the article again:

"He [Nabors] told police that Magidson and Merel had a previous sexual encounter with Araujo before anyone suspected he wasn't a woman, according to the records."

There WAS a sexual encounter -- exactly what, we don't know. They didn't just kill him because he was a transvestite. They killed him because they had had a sexual encounter of some type with "her", BEFORE they found out "she" was a guy.

Nobody is going to be threatened by a transvestite. The only ones who are going to be radically pi$$ed off are the ones who have either "hit" on one, or kissed one, or had some type of sexual contact with one. This is what happened to these guys. They had some type of sexual contact with the transvestite, whom they thought was a GIRL. A man's ego wouldn't allow him to handle a situation like this.

75 posted on 10/20/2002 10:26:37 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Antoninus
"...Wasn't there a case on Sally Jesse or Sleeza where they set up a guy to think that some girl from his past had a crush on him and wanted to tell him on live TV -- and then it turned out to be a man -- and he proceeded to later kill the guy?..."

I remember the case, but not in great detail. I think that it was Sally Jesse or Springer.

They ambushed this guy on TV with the revelation that a local homo had the hots for him. I recall that he was able to handle it fairly well while on camera, but that events spun out of control when they returned home.

It seems to me that the offending TV show pulled back afterward from its more egregious abuses. I'm fairly sure that a lawsuit was filed in the case (Duh) but it may have been settled OOC as I don't remember it being tried. (could be wrong about that)

"...Playing games with people's sexuality can be extremely dangerous..."

'Dangerous' on a good day. This can be LETHAL.

"...None of the people in this story are to be admired, honestly -- including the people making the pathetic teenaged transvestite out to be some kind of icon..."

Amen to that. And the icon-making isn't limited to the pest hole this pervert lived in. The level of touchy-feely political correctness that the death of this demented soul has fetched from lurking homo-apologists in the several threads at FR is sickening.

"...SSAD sexually-confused lives don't often end well, and his little sexual shell game caused the end of his life, plus the ruination of three others..."

That's why, if sexual perversion can't (or won't) be cured. it MUST be kept under a rock. No civilization can prosper, or even endure, when this level of degeneracy is tolerated.

'Tolerance' of this disgusting filth is as serious an offense against our culture and way of life as the perversion itself is.

"...I pray for his soul and for those of his murderers..."

I admire your even-handedness in that. Although I have zero sympathy for the pervert, myself, I do recognize how base his accused killers apparently are.

'Poor Folks' TRULY have 'Poor Ways'.

76 posted on 10/21/2002 4:14:39 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
To clarify: it was 'Jenny Jones', the worst of the worst (worse than 'Springer', because at least Jerry acknowledges that his show is a freakshow--unlike the pious Jenny, who takes herself so seriously).
77 posted on 10/21/2002 4:35:26 AM PDT by Calico Cat
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To: Calico Cat
"...To clarify: it was 'Jenny Jones', the worst of the worst (worse than 'Springer', because at least Jerry acknowledges that his show is a freakshow--unlike the pious Jenny, who takes herself so seriously)..."

Thanks for adding that. I'd forgotten Jenny of the donut IQ.

I was leaning toward SJR in memory... Unable to remember precisely who'd done the deed, my mind was supplying the identity of the only grating, horsy, Caucasian, talk-bimbo that I can recall the name of.

78 posted on 10/21/2002 4:45:35 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: TheOtherOne
**I can respect someone who dislikes cross-dressing or hate-crime laws. I have zero respect for people who are blinded by those views and make excuses for murder. **

bump!

79 posted on 11/11/2002 3:04:55 PM PST by homeschool mama
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Is Free Republic becoming the perverts' bulletin board now?
How many times must this be posted?

This is neither news nor worthy of further discussion.

Try posting at Jerry Springer.

80 posted on 11/11/2002 3:15:23 PM PST by Publius6961
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