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California Transexual Teen Murdered
The Argus (Fremont California) ^ | October 19, 2002 | Robert Airoldi

Posted on 10/20/2002 8:44:52 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe

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Newark is a small bedroom community in Alameda County in the East Bay of San Francisco where murders are very rare and 17 year olds usually go to malt shops for fun.
1 posted on 10/20/2002 8:44:52 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
OMG. We are never going to hear the end of this one now. The new Matthew Shepard. Except now the cause celebre will be transexualism.

A sort of sidebar comment of mine: right or wrong---how much brains does it take to know that it isn't nice to fool young, virile males like this? Duh. Throughout history---and you don't have to be a psychologist to figure this out---men, when deceived like this, can become violent. For whatever reason, right or wrong: their masculinity threatened, peer pressure, homophobia, WHATEVER! Duh.

Makes you wonder if this guy was "cruising" like Matthew Shepard was, i.e., seeking "the rough trade"---lifestyle which many gay men live in, in which they seek out straight men hoping to get roughed up, and they get off on it (something well-known but skillfully and intentionally omitted by media in the Shepard case.)

2 posted on 10/20/2002 9:00:37 AM PDT by gg188
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Killing was a little severe; a good whipping-socially sanctioned-would have been more appropriate and ultimately more curative.
3 posted on 10/20/2002 9:03:35 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: American Preservative; katnip; chachacha; AEMILIUS PAULUS; A. Pole; Loyalist; longtermmemmory; ...
This is a Ping to some Freepers that were on a Gay Lesbian thread last weekend -- what a shock to me that this weekend this made headlines in my home town. That people encourage this very dangerous behavior shocks me.

Gay-Lesbian Youth Center Opens

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/767905/posts
4 posted on 10/20/2002 9:03:46 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
A boy dressing as a girl goes to a party full of teenage boys. A Darwin award, definitely.
5 posted on 10/20/2002 9:12:38 AM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: gg188
Hang with rough drug abusing scum and this can happen, no matter what you are packing in your pants.
7 posted on 10/20/2002 9:14:14 AM PDT by DmBarch
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
We won't hear a PEEP about the story of the murderous transvestite, though.
8 posted on 10/20/2002 9:18:12 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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[snip]seeking "the rough trade"---lifestyle which many gay men live in, in which they seek out straight men hoping to get roughed up.."

It doesn't take too many brain cells to figure out that you will have to deal with anger of a raging mad male when the male finds out the deception.

I think the left will want to focus on the "non-acceptance" but lying about sex causes most of the marital problems I've seen and the deception this kid tried to pull off was stupid.
9 posted on 10/20/2002 9:19:10 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
"Killing was a little severe"

That's how I feel and I do feel sorry for the family and friends. I'm sure this kid was out of control in many areas of his life and needed some parental control and the article says he is going to the "dummy high school" in town proves he's not bright.

This kid should have been locked down and forced to go to school and become a real person rather than finding his "sexuality" at age 17.

12 posted on 10/20/2002 9:25:24 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Agreed!A series of graduated punishments starting with adult intervention might keep the vice from spreading. The latter is the goal. Absolute elimination is probably impossible. Of course if these sick souls persist into adulthood then a different solution must be applied.
13 posted on 10/20/2002 9:37:39 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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A picture of two of the perps.

14 posted on 10/20/2002 9:37:48 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Murder, perversion, drugs, alchohol, hate, deception, sexual rage, twisted corrupted youths.

An article that speaks to the depths today's society has sunk to.

Malt shop kids you say?

15 posted on 10/20/2002 9:39:01 AM PDT by martian_22
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"Absolute elimination is probably impossible."

I was sick awhile ago and I watched a day talk show about transexuals that had a sex change operation and now were sorry they had it done. They realized they had mad a mistake and their "gender preference" was all a big mistake.

People get really stupid about sex and ideas like "finding yourself" can be disastrous.

I worry about how society is trying to encourage this stuff. See this other post on FR today.


Queer Radicals group to initiate change in campus climate, policies (giant massive must read barf)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772535/posts?page=1
16 posted on 10/20/2002 9:46:51 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
How Queer.
17 posted on 10/20/2002 9:47:16 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: martian_22
"Malt Shop"

Well, I guess I'm out of touch and I don't see kids hanging around the local ice cream place but there isn't much crime here. So maybe this is what kids do now -- sounds like boredom.

As Mom would say, "An idle mind is the devils workshop!"
18 posted on 10/20/2002 9:50:50 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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This story will fade away, minorities were among the killers.
19 posted on 10/20/2002 10:07:50 AM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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