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Hanover County Shooting [Ashland, Virginia- North of Richmond]

Posted on 10/19/2002 6:14:56 PM PDT by William McKinley

Just reported. Took place outside of a Ponderosa Steakhouse. Not sure if it is related or not at this time. Police have shut down parts of I-95.


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To: ApesForEvolution
You are taking the word of ONE AP caption as the fact that ALL van owners are being handcuffed. I find this hard to believe.

As far as getting it, yes, I do. We have a terrible problem with radical Islam infiltrating this country and recruiting people who are disaffected...blacks, Hispanic gang members, pathetic suburban white students.

All I was trying to say is profiling of ME types would let all of the people I listed through.

Quit ranting at me. You are simply angry that I refuted you with simple logic.

1,541 posted on 10/19/2002 9:16:12 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Texas Mom
"I don't think they would try in in a place where the citizens are armed."

They just did. Virginia has a concealed carry law, and Ashland is rural. There are plenty of good ol' boys in those parts. Mess with their huntin' dawgs or their pick-em-up trucks, and you're in a heap o' trouble...
1,542 posted on 10/19/2002 9:16:28 PM PDT by Darnright
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To: Letitring
Finally, people are starting to say the "T" word out loud tonight. If this isn't terrorism, I don't know what is.
1,543 posted on 10/19/2002 9:16:33 PM PDT by Kathleen
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To: Iscool
My father was a veteran. My great great great great great grandfather was aide de camp to George Washington at Valley Forge.

I know what veterans fought for. It was for me to LIVE; and if I can't LIVE, what good are my rights?

1,544 posted on 10/19/2002 9:16:44 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: patriciaruth; Howlin
A report on the "search" and "profiling" questions.

Local TV witnesses report they are all "OK" with the searches and stops.

and "Glad they are being thorough in trying to catch the sniper".
1,545 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:11 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: Eva
They just had a hospital spokesperson on FOX, saying that the man was clearly very seriously injured if he has been in surgery for three hours and still isn't finished.

I hope it's taking so long because they are trying to get the bullet.

1,546 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:14 PM PDT by relee
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To: relee
Ashland Police Chief Frederic Pleasants said ALL roads were closed within 10 minutes.

If you want to think a person in a hurry and on the run can't get away in ten minutes, that's your right. I happen to know that in ten minutes at 60mph you can be 60 miles away.

1,547 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:27 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Mulder
Those are all great ideas, Mulder. But I want to know specifically about this case. What would you do to catch the sniper? What would you do as an alternative to the car search?
1,548 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:28 PM PDT by rintense
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To: concerned about politics
Wow CNN must have a mole.
1,549 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:35 PM PDT by Lobbyist
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To: All
For anyone who has read my theory about the sniperstory then I would like to give my opinion that Team Shadow Warriors may be playing a game against Rusty and Knuckles! If you could have read the whole story before it was pulled you would understand. This will help you. Now this guy that I think did it said this:

Description I am a recon/sniper for Team Shadow Warriors. My primary duty is to perform an UNPAID JOB with AIRSOFT ZONE FORUM and START MAKING UP MY OWN RULES. I have been playing paintball(10 yrs.) **YES, I HAVE NO LIFE. I AM UGLY AND I AM WHITE** and airsoft(6 yrs.)**YES I AM WHITE** for a total of 16 years. I am truly a serious player and hardcore through and through. **I TRIED OUT FOR THE MARINES BUT END UP WITH THE LOST SOULS "ARMY" BUT EVEN THEY BOOTED ME OUT :(" It's all fun and games to some, but I play to WIN! **I AM TOO SCARED TO GET SHOT BY 7.62mm.. I want to have kids, despite I am so ugly and fat, I am still trying.** I have a dream to one day, meet rusty and Knuckles on the field of battle. To finally lay to rest who is truly the best of the best. **I AM SO PATHETIC** Glimmer will be there too, Mmmm...Chopped liver.:P A message to rusty and Knuckles: "Be afraid...Be very afraid.":)

I am starting to wonder if their are more snipers (two teams of two) playing for points! It's something to ponder if you read the whole story.

1,550 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:36 PM PDT by md2576
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To: twntaipan
With this type of "my rights" are more important than national sovereignty and security, there is little to stop Islam's radical spread

The "my Rights" folks here are also the ones most adamant about maintaining our national sovereignty and security (through a secure border, reformed immigration policies, and an amred citizenry).

It's not an "either/or" choice.

Or do you just think we should repeal the Bill of Rights until this "war" is over? And I'm not trying to be flippant here. What specific Rights do you think we should surrender (1st amendment, 2nd, 4th, other unenumerated Rights, etc....)?

1,551 posted on 10/19/2002 9:17:51 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: twntaipan
Oh, not them! They'd MUCH rather the country be destoryed than open their car trunk!
1,552 posted on 10/19/2002 9:18:12 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: aeronca
You make some good points. I understand the high density areas but I wonder why port cities. I'm convinced this is but a trial run. Trying to see how we react, find the holes in our system. I think there'll be more around the country unless we get lucky and squash this one in some kind of impressive way.
1,553 posted on 10/19/2002 9:18:21 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: home educate
I would advise you not to travel to muslime countries. They do not welcome christians there.

Regarding turbans. People in muslime countries wear turbans - you, know, that piece of rag around their heads.

Boy, you know a lot! Why don't you write a book? It will sell well.

1,554 posted on 10/19/2002 9:18:58 PM PDT by Nogbad
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To: hole_n_one
Is there a mosque nearby?

I just caught wind of this 15 minutes ago.
1,555 posted on 10/19/2002 9:19:09 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Travis McGee
You are right! That's probably a more likely refuge than a mosque.

Identifying and observing every Muslim owned motel or hotel will be a challenge. But you hit the nail on the head.

1,556 posted on 10/19/2002 9:19:15 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: rintense
This is a commercial vehicle license plate from Maryland:

Commercial vehcile

It has no date/year tags on it.

Go here and click "Commercial Vehicle" to see the plate. Angelfire traps requests for images that are not referred from an Angelfire page (got to get their ads seen, you know).

1,557 posted on 10/19/2002 9:19:19 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: JHrules
Don't forget 7-Elevens LOL

Good point, and I'm not LOL. A 7-11 can provide a package over the counter with cash, phone cards, hair dye, razors, etc, everything a fugitive needs.

"Come behind the store in ten minutes my friend, and I will have will have all that you need to continue your journey, praise Allah."

1,558 posted on 10/19/2002 9:19:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: edwin hubble
No kidding? I guess THEY are all idiots who don't care about the foundations of this country, either, right? :-)
1,559 posted on 10/19/2002 9:19:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Darnright
Not to sound like a smart aleck, but most counties in Virginia hire their police officers for their ability, not for their worth as trendy status symbols

You just sound sensible. Moose has made several comments over the past few weeks that just ooze P.C. Makes me sick.

Looks like their moving out of the liberal zone. Good for us. Hopefully bad for them.

1,560 posted on 10/19/2002 9:19:24 PM PDT by lizma
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