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Hanover County Shooting [Ashland, Virginia- North of Richmond]

Posted on 10/19/2002 6:14:56 PM PDT by William McKinley

Just reported. Took place outside of a Ponderosa Steakhouse. Not sure if it is related or not at this time. Police have shut down parts of I-95.


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To: patriciaruth
Naughty. Naughthy.

LOL, I couldn't help myself.

1,501 posted on 10/19/2002 9:10:45 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: rintense
rintense, are you the guy that was with us in front of the Capitol Bldg. the day of impeachment vote? Raoul, Kristinn, MrConfettiMan and I were there.
1,502 posted on 10/19/2002 9:10:52 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Arkinsaw
I'd love for you to show me EXACTLY where I said that. But, of course, you know I didn't; that's just more specious drivel from you needed to try to prove you're a better citizen than me.

And as I said before, you have NO idea that that is why that guy is on the ground; but anything else wouldn't help you feel superior to the rest of us, would it?

1,503 posted on 10/19/2002 9:11:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: js1138
They just had a hospital spokesperson on FOX, saying that the man was clearly very seriously injured if he has been in surgery for three hours and still isn't finished.
1,504 posted on 10/19/2002 9:11:17 PM PDT by Eva
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To: SwordofTruth
I teach American history and we have never fought a FOREIGN enemy on our own shores...all the combatants in the civil war were Americans!
1,505 posted on 10/19/2002 9:11:23 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: ApesForEvolution
You are jumping to conclusions based on one photo. How do you know there wasn't something found in the van?
1,506 posted on 10/19/2002 9:11:26 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ApesForEvolution
LOL! How would you have identified sweet Johnny Jihad after he had shaved and donned khakis and a golf shirt? Profiling is using VISUAL APPEARANCE, like RACE OR ETHNICITY, to target perpetrators.

And by the way, you cannot profile based on religion. It is unconstitutional.

1,507 posted on 10/19/2002 9:11:53 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ApesForEvolution
I'm telling you I bet you that's NOT why that guy is on the ground. If so, the ground would be FULL of people, you idgit.

1,509 posted on 10/19/2002 9:12:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
A lot of Veterans, alive and dead, may disagree with you on that one...
1,510 posted on 10/19/2002 9:12:25 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Senator Pardek
Oh no. Veruca Salt is very much defunct. It involved one of the girls sleeping with the other girl's boyfriend.
1,511 posted on 10/19/2002 9:12:36 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ExSoldier
Who were those guys we fought in the War of 1812?
1,512 posted on 10/19/2002 9:12:40 PM PDT by Doohickey
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To: Miss Marple
As you should be able to see, profiling is not a protection.

No, but it can help a lot in the winnowing.

Profiling Plus is the policy I like.

1,513 posted on 10/19/2002 9:12:49 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Mulder
This is probably snippy--but it's late.

I encourage you to brush up on your arabic and begin studying the Koran. With this type of "my rights" are more important than national sovereignty and security, there is little to stop Islam's radical spread. We must demonstrate the will to make the difficult choices needed to stop the enemy.

1,514 posted on 10/19/2002 9:12:53 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: GirlShortstop
so perhaps you can STOP your rude postings?

Nope.... Got your number... go back to DU. They are looking for you.

Semper Fi

1,515 posted on 10/19/2002 9:13:02 PM PDT by Trident/Delta
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To: ExSoldier
re: "as a certified firearms instructor, I can teach you to be fairly expert with a HANDGUN in an afternoon but not a rifle!"

I am EXTREMELY reluctant as a layman shooter to be differing with a certified firearms instructor. But the very concept that handguns are easier to master than rifles is so patently false as to be laughable. A mildly recoiling round like a .223 is not highly challengin. A bold action .223 with a scope can be learned to use with lethal effectiveness in one range session, especially if fired from the prone position or if using a support, as I assume this assassin is doing.

By contrast, some people can't ever seem to learn handgun trigger control or learn to control their flinch.

What authoritative proof can you supply to support your wildly false assertion that handgun proficiency can be swiftly taught while rifle proficiency is much harder to acquire.

1,516 posted on 10/19/2002 9:13:04 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Kathleen
These guys tonight are good. I hope Moose doesn't get to take them down like he did Chief Manger. Moose seems to spend so much time fighting with the other Cops and fussing at the Media, he surely is too busy to find this killer/killers.
1,517 posted on 10/19/2002 9:13:04 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: ExSoldier
I teach American history and we have never fought a FOREIGN enemy on our own shores...all the combatants in the civil war were Americans!

And now we know why American students don't know history from their own rear ends....

Care to explain who it was that burned the White House and Capitol in 1814?

1,518 posted on 10/19/2002 9:13:19 PM PDT by John H K
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To: home educate
The "rag" is not a turban. The wrapped cloth that actually is a turban is worn by Sikhs, who are NOT Muslims and in fact are hated by Muslims.

It's hard for Sikhs. Some nut killed a turban-wearing Sikh gas station attendant in California after 9/11, thinking he was a Muslim. At the same time, Muslims regularly kill Sikhs and Hindus in their native lands.

Pakistanis and other Arabs wear a kind of headdress, but it's not a turban; many Muslims just wear a sort of cap that looks like a yarmulke...

Turban wearers, however, are probably NOT Muslims.
1,519 posted on 10/19/2002 9:13:23 PM PDT by livius
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To: nicmarlo
Oh, my gosh, that guy is back on FOX, saying that the Federal authorities should take over because it might be terrorist related. It's just the opposite of what he said with Rita. Oh, no, he just said that he will not contradict himself.LOL
1,520 posted on 10/19/2002 9:13:27 PM PDT by Eva
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