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1 posted on 10/18/2002 8:39:36 PM PDT by jaime1959
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To: jaime1959
More than just one other witness, I thought.

Long before the Home Depot slaying, I recall news postings here that said that two guys that looked like Latinos (to a Marylander) were spotted in a white cargo truck.

That was after one of the first shootings.

2 posted on 10/18/2002 8:44:08 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: jaime1959
According to the original news report, Robert Young was very definite. He said there was a small, angry Middle-Eastern man driving a white van, with another man sitting in the passenger seat, who tried to pull into his lane.

He also said that he had a good look at him and would recognize him if he saw him again.

Freepers have indeed been confusing the two of them. I suspect that Moose and the authorities are deliberately using the arrest of the other fellow to obfuscate the matter and bury the idea that the murderer may be a Muslim terrorist. Naturally the press is happy to help.

I noted at the time Young's statement came out that Young said "Middle-Eastern," the police spokesman said "Hispanic or Middle Eastern," and AP dropped that from its description entirely, even in the original story.
3 posted on 10/18/2002 8:49:39 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: jaime1959
Does Dowdy own and use a scanner? There are wannabees everywhere, at fires, at crime scenes, gawking on response teams at auto accidents.
4 posted on 10/18/2002 8:52:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: jaime1959
More made up bull crap. The shooter was on a bank with schrubs across the street. He shot from the prone position and left no clues.

The parking lanes are one way. Are we to believe this killer in the white van turned the wong way down a one way lane. If he was going the proper direction he pulled up behind the guy backing out. It is hard to get a good look through the body of your vehicle over your shoulder at a while van behind you.

But if the guy was going the wrong way it is very likely that he would not sit and glare. He is a killer trying to get away. If he doesn't get several miles down the road before the road is blocked he is toast. He has a rifle in the van. He can't get stopped and searched.

If he saw a car backing out blocking his way, he would be in reverse and backing out before any one could get much of a look at him. He would be looking in his rear view mirror or over his own shoulder backing up.

This liarn is no more credible than the last liar. They just can't prove he did not see a van or he would be in jail too. But he certainly did not see the van of a killer. Most likely he is making it up. I doubt there is a white van.

More likely a guy wearing a priests collar and driving a Ford Fiesta with a parsih name on the door.

5 posted on 10/18/2002 8:54:05 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: jaime1959
"Middle Eastern" can look just like many Mexicans - or Puerto Rican or even many Jews.

Witnesses were describing these guys as "Hispanic" long before any described them as Middle Eastern.

Just how good are the Washington "snipers?" Are they skilled at all?

6 posted on 10/18/2002 8:57:15 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: jaime1959
man leaving the scene in a white van.

Therefore, a white guy.

7 posted on 10/18/2002 8:58:54 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: jaime1959
Young described the driver as a short man of slight build who appeared to be Middle Eastern. "I got a good look at the guy," he said.

If he got "a good look at the guy," then why no composite sketch?

10 posted on 10/18/2002 9:11:35 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: jaime1959
Your thoughts?

So far, I think most of what we have heard is probably garbage. I'm not ready to assume anything.

16 posted on 10/18/2002 9:29:16 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: jaime1959
Greta said on her show tonite that Downey was spotted on a vidio tape inside the Home Depot at the time the shooting outside. She also said he had a prior conviction with time stayed if he was a good boy. He will get an automatic 6 months for that.
19 posted on 10/18/2002 9:34:57 PM PDT by tubebender
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This charge against Dowdy supposedly debunks a possible Middle Eastern connection (olive-skinned man), right?

No. It only debunks the fact that Dowdy saw anything at all.

It sounds as if Dowdy was taking a guess at the correct answer for the half million dollar reward.

A good guess, IMHO, but still a false statement.

23 posted on 10/18/2002 9:42:31 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: jaime1959
First ya check out the friends of your enemies, then your friends.

jamie1945
29 posted on 10/18/2002 9:56:21 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: jaime1959
Two days ago on Fox News I heard that a total of five witnesses at two seperate murder scenes had claimed that the person or persons in the white vehicle appeared to be olive complected, possibly Hispanic or Middle Eastern in appearance.

So, now we can reduce that number of witnesses to four.

It doesn't change anything.

40 posted on 10/18/2002 10:37:18 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: jaime1959
How did he know he was short if the guy was sitting? How does he know he has a slight build?

However, I'd say most construction guys are pretty good observers and "trouble-ready".

Kinda reminds you of the Atta incident in the airport parking lot.

Sac

48 posted on 10/19/2002 6:36:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Maybe Robert Young DID see the white van with the grumpy Middle Easterners....and maybe they wanted to be seen at that place and at that tme, while the shooter, who was possibly across Rt. 50, slipped away. Many Freepers have raised the possibility of the white van being used as a decoy, and it sounds very plausible to me.
49 posted on 10/19/2002 6:43:42 AM PDT by DC native
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(AP) Robert Young, a Washington construction worker, was among witnesses who returned to the shopping center

There isn't enough information in any of the Robert Young reports to make any determination whatsoever.

Which lane was he in? Which direction did the "white van" come from? How did it go around the restaurant? Was he near the store, or near the back of the lot? Was this before or after the shot, and by how long?

The HD lot is small and usually crowded (I can't speak for Monday night), and there are frustrations in trying to navigate it and find a space: people parking, people exiting, customers walking in the lanes, or coming out with bulky Home Depot sorts of wares. Personally I always go to the upstairs lot, because it's considerably less difficult than parking downstairs.

So another agitated driver wouldn't surprise me at all. In fact is is quite common there in my experience (this is my local HD).

That this agitated person was "Middle Eastern" is not even relevant given that there is no other information.

54 posted on 10/19/2002 7:21:20 AM PDT by angkor
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