[Paradox]

Thats what science is all about, as far as I am concerned. Now, if they go and start teaching the Gilgamesh epic as a science, or something similar, that would just be plain stupid.

[Psalm 73]

OK, I'll bite -
They say it is good to teach students to "think outside the box", and to question the norms, (like homosexuality and historical revisionism), but DO NOT question the "theory" of evolution.
Would they rather our students just accept everything unquestioningly? Or just accept certain things unquestioningly.
How nasty even Freepers get when one questions the infallibility of macro-evolution as the be-all and end-all of our origins.

[Gerfang]

It has always struck me as strange how so much press and so little class time is dedicated to the teaching of Evolution. Most kids spend more time watching television each week then they do learning about Evolution during their entire secondary education.

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[Sloth]

While the public may be clamoring for open-mindedness about evolution, scientists argue that public opinion has no place in science education.

No, public opinion has no place in science. The public ABSOLUTELY has a say in what is made a part of tax-funded educational curricula.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your post, xsysmgr! I've pinged a few Freepers who follow the intelligent design discussion and might have an opinion for the thread.

My two cents: Inquiry is not a threat to truth.

[Terriergal]

"Darwin's dike is finally breaking down," he said.

No, it's just that someone is finally noticing other than Michael Behe.

Thanks for the story. Reading Behe's book now. Of course he (as an evolutionist) is only so far saying things I have thought all along. Evolution can explain the differentiation of species, e.g. perhaps originally there was only two or three different kinds of deer which diverged. I think most Creationists would concede that. But a reptile never changed into a bird changed into a mammal. Likewise Darwin always avoided trying to explain the origin of actual *life* - he started a step later, once life was begun.

Another book I had skimmed at one time was _From Goo to You by Way of the Zoo_ by Harold Hill.

[betty boop]

In recent years, a handful of renegade scientists and academics have launched a revolt against Darwinism. Unlike creationists, they accept that the Earth is four billion years old and that species undergo some change over time. What they don't accept is macroevolution, or the transition from one species to the next — as in ape to man. Scientists in the "intelligent design" community don't advocate any particular religion, but they do believe that some higher intelligence — though not necessarily the God of the Bible — created life in all its forms. Proponents of intelligent design agree with the scientific establishment that students should be taught evolution, but they think students should be made aware there is some controversy over the theory.

Hiya PH! When I told you I wasn't a creationist, I suspected you didn't believe me. The above excerpt is an excellent description of my position in this never-ending dispute between evos and crevos. It's clearly not an observation from the creationist position. (So there! :^P) :^)

IMHO neither side has the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Reality continues to unfold, and there is still much for man to learn. To say the evolution issue has been dispositively "decided," therefore all further discussion is moot, is the complete antithesis of how Western science has proceeded in the past. Or so it seems to me.

Real advances in human knowledge and human progress, IMHO, require that we keep our minds open to the idea that we as humans do not know what God knows. FWIW.

Thanks so much A-G for the bump; and thanks to you, xsysmgr, for the marvelous post.

[gore3000]

"Darwin's dike is finally breaking down," he said.

And about time, with the tons of Evidence Disproving Evolution available, it is time the lie was discarded.

[usconservative]

"It's clear that the motivation is anti-evolutionist," said Eugenie Scott, director of the Oakland, Calif.-based National Center for Science Education"

What's clear is, the evolutionists don't want alternate or dissenting views to be heard! And now that the dam has broken, their faulty theori3es are about to be exposed.

Evolution is bunk.

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Are we back? Seems like FR was under attack this morning. I couldn't get on for about 2 hours.