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At War With EVIL (FReeper GaryMontana)
Free Republic | 10-14-2002 | GaryMontana

Posted on 10/13/2002 11:09:03 PM PDT by blam

At War With EVIL

What did we (in America) learn from September 11, 2001 and the deaths of 3,000 people. I am tempted to admit: Absolutely nothing.

Among the many unlearned lessons of Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II-- the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the nature of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or other such weasel words – but Islam, period.

Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Moslems, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Moslem countries and supported financially by the so called pious Moslem leadership of Saudi Arabia.

The overwhelming majority of Moslem religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated in the streets.

Sept. 11 was one chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan (deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women trying to shield their children). Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but the whole world -- and the beat goes on.

Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as Third World and much of the First slowly turns Islamic green.

Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absurdity that Islam is a religion of peace – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by fanatics.

Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Moslem nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. We would not want to offend these dear friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcherly, dark ages faith.

Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that is religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca.

This works with every religion except Islam.

Consider the following: Of the three major western religions: one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (it is in the Koran). The essence of his message is sick and disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) for the glory of Allah. He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies.

For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death. This is still in practice today.

Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. The evil committed in the name of the Prophet is going on now, as you read these words. Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Moslems versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, “Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order,” Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s “bloody borders.”

There is no Methodist Jihad, no Jewish Hasidic holy warriors, no Buddhist monk wanting to have 72 virgins waiting for him after a suicide bombing, no Hindu Holy men plotting to blow up people, no Southern Baptist suicide bombers, no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths.

Islam is a warrior religion – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and haters of all stripes. This is one reason why Islam is making so many converts among the peaceable denizens of our prison system.

Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Moslem groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Moslems. Our universities take carefully selected verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Moslem character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster!

This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security. Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine follows – your friends and neighbors.”

For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more.

Due to Moslem immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Moslem populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines.

Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and every other non-muslim, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths.

Am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Moslems? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins?

Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, Buddhists in Thailand, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, Taoists in China, or Christians in Sudan and Nigeria, but all of us. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.


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To: JohnHuang2
Dear King of Ping:

This may be one of the most important posts ever written on FR......please give it your Mega Ping!

Your loyal subject,
Julie
41 posted on 10/14/2002 8:55:16 AM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: 2sheep; Thinkin' Gal; RnMomof7; Jeremiah Jr
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42 posted on 10/14/2002 8:59:24 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: DeviantMind
I think that garymontana is generally correct in his assertions. In the course of discussions about issues we do not normally require people to have footnotes for every single detail, assertion or fact they mention, especially in an editorial. So, you are asking for a special set of standards for garymontana. Then you said that we had to have these special higher standards for people like him because his point of view is wrong. Would it be too much to ask for you to provide sources that each of his assertions are false? I'm sure it wouldn't be because you said that garymontana's participation in public debate was illegitimate unless he did this. So, surely you will live by the same standards.

DeviantMind - that is an interesting screen name. Perhaps you're just bent on civilizational suicide and the promotion of evil. Why else would you pick that screen name and then have this hysterical attack on garymontana, wanting to make up special standards just for him, as if you're some sort of gate-keeper for truth.
43 posted on 10/14/2002 9:06:08 AM PDT by Red Jones
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To: blam; GaryMontana
Gary;

So you did write this.

BRAVO!

44 posted on 10/14/2002 9:31:00 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: blam; GaryMontana
Excellent essay! As lucid as it gets. Deserves a bookmark.
45 posted on 10/14/2002 10:10:41 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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To: MinuteGal
In fact, it appears to be criss-crossing the country. I had three emails this AM from non-freepers who sent me this article.

FR rules!

46 posted on 10/14/2002 10:16:55 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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To: EternalVigilance
USA is in real trouble, as long as George Bush does not realize that Islam has declared war on the USA. USA has not faced up to it's terrorism problem even as much as some Arab countries that have outlawed some Islamic groups.
George Bush has no business telling the Israelis to lay down and roll over so terrorists can destroy them, and he needs to stop talking out of both sides of his mouth. I do support my president, but he does seem awfully dumb about Islam and it's goals against freedom and democracy.
47 posted on 10/14/2002 10:23:21 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: Red Jones; DeviantMind
DeviantMind - that is an interesting screen name. Perhaps you're just bent on civilizational suicide and the promotion of evil. Why else would you pick that screen name

Indeed. DeviantMind, would you care to explain us what made you choose this screen name? I mean, if you chose it as a self-description, you can't really expect us to take you seriously!

48 posted on 10/14/2002 10:29:16 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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To: Semper911
Ping.
49 posted on 10/14/2002 11:03:26 AM PDT by blam
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To: mhking
Will you put this on your ping list? Thanks.
50 posted on 10/14/2002 11:08:29 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Thanks very much, blam.
51 posted on 10/14/2002 11:10:21 AM PDT by Semper911
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To: Sir Gawain; blam; Simcha7; Thinkin' Gal
9/11

9 x 11 = the 99 names (attributes) of Allah

And Allah lives, Deep in the heart of Saudi.

Revelation 13
1 And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

...and by peace...
Daniel 8:25

Swiss President Kaspar Villiger, left, and King Abdullah II of Jordan, right, join the military parade on Friday, Oct. 4, 2002 in Lohn outside Berne, Switzerland. Back in the center Tariq Jamil, an official of the king's escort. The king is on a two-day visit in Switzerland. (AP Photo/Keystone/Edi Engeler)

Psalm 83

52 posted on 10/14/2002 12:00:02 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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To: tessalu
The truth about Islam becomes more apparent to all daily.

I have also been disappointed by the words coming out of the Administration at times vis a vis Israel--but watch what they DO more than what they SAY. It's pretty hard to find fault with their actions in the past year...foreign policy has become AMERICAN foreign policy once again, in large part.

Developing events continue to weaken the position of the appeasers/pantywaists in the State Department, thank God.
53 posted on 10/14/2002 12:02:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: DeviantMind
People, how hard is it for you to grow up and realize when someone is wrong?

And of course, you signed up today just to show us that he actually is wrong, yes?

Noooo!!!

54 posted on 10/14/2002 12:10:29 PM PDT by mhking
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.


This falls outside the regular purview of the scope of my list, but it is such a strong bit of intelligensia that I felt (with more than a little prodding) it necessary to point it toward everyone. For those of you who have been pinged to this via other lists and other means, I apologize for the redundancy.
55 posted on 10/14/2002 12:12:43 PM PDT by mhking
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To: DeviantMind
Salaam, jihadi effendi!

Still all tingly and alglow over this carnage? Like the clothing sticking to burnt flesh. Gotten a hardon yet?

56 posted on 10/14/2002 1:21:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: DeviantMind
Mr. Montana has also made one of the most abbrasive blanket statements to grace this site yet (which is quite a statement in itself).

For someone who joined just today, you seem to be very well informed.

What gives you the basis to hector on your supposedly first day on FR? Have you been previously kicked out or are you just a very quick learner? I doubt very much that the latter is the case: you seem unable to differentiate even between singular and plural.

57 posted on 10/14/2002 1:28:27 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: DeviantMind
Are you Abraham Hooper of CAIR noted jihadisymp and apologist?

You sound like him.
58 posted on 10/14/2002 1:34:37 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Smile-n-Win
Thank you for your kind words.

Gary
59 posted on 10/14/2002 3:20:55 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: DeviantMind
Prove to me that I said one thing that is FALSE? I dare you!

The religion of peace you defend struck in Bali this weekend. There is information coming out that Islam attacked Finland. In Europe Synagogues are burnt to the ground by ISLAM. Perhaps it is time we returned the favor!

Islam is using the Jews as a scapegoat just like Hitler did in the 1930's and 1940's. Soon they will do the same thing to all of Christianity.

How many times must we put up with Islamo-Facism's attacks on the human race! Sadly our government has been too cowardly to stand up to today's cancer - Islam.

Perhaps you do not care for the truth. After all the Islamic faith time and again calls on people to lie, murder, cheat and destroy any non-Muslims who do not convert.

Islam in the Koran openly states one should kill or convert any non-Muslim. Mohammed the false prophet married a girl six years old - that is SICK.




If we ever hope to rid the world of the political AIDS of our time, we must understand this: One does not deal with terrorists; one does not bargain with terrorists; one kills terrorists. It is time we stopped surrendering over sovereignty to United Nations, it is time we got a backbone. The politically correct crowd is more than welcome to leave our country and move to Canada, Sweden, or Saudi Arabia.

If that rule is too much for the United States to stomach, we shall resign ourselves not only of the constant hatred of the Third World, but worse, bombs in U.S. department stores, and other public places. The terror that is taking place in Israel today will soon find its place in the USA.

One of the great problems with Americans is that we foolishly assume that everyone else is equally decent. Too many Americans assume that everyone else is equally decent even in light of 9/11. We assume that, all humans being equal, all cultures are therefore similar in concepts and values. Sadly, that is simply not so. The Middle East is just not the Middle West.

The Moslem world has unique cultures and values that in so many cases are at variance with those of the West. Human rights - especially those of non-Moslems or non- Arabs - simply do not have the same absolute value that we do in the West.

Above all, it is not decency or goodness of gentleness that impresses the Middle East, but strength. Because of this, the U.S. is looked on as a paper tiger by the Muslim world - with all the accompanying contempt. President Bush’s constant flexing of muscle, with absolutely no reaction to the weapons of mass destruction being built in Iraq headed for use against the USA and the constant shooting of our aircraft, slaughter and abuse of U.S. citizens, UN abuse of our sovereignty has created for him an image of one who speaks loudly and carries a small twig.

That is the heart of the problem. The answer? Never, ever deal with terrorists. Hunt them down and, more important, mercilessly punish those states and groups that fund, arm, support, or simply allow their territories to be used by the terrorists with impunity.

It is abundantly clear that Syria wished to, terrorists would be deprived of huge areas of haven in Lebanon. But why should Syria want to? Or Iraq? They're happily enjoying Western agony without suffering one bit. And that is the key: Make them suffer.

Terror in Iraqi cities would convince those unworthy states that sponsor terrorism (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria etc..) that it is unhealthy to do so. If Iraq, and the other Muslin nations that support terrorists, are mercilessly dealt with, terrorism would soon end.

The question is whether we in the United States have the stomach to defeat terror or whether we Americans will sink into "the mercy of fools." When one refrains from terror against terrorists, he is not better than they. He will be deader, and there is nothing moral of ethical about that.
60 posted on 10/14/2002 4:14:26 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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