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Never quite certain how much of an excerpt is an excerpt the the WP legal team..it's only a tiny portion of the article.

Other info said the none of the witnesses had any indication that the van had anything to do with the shootings, witnesses don't agree on the number of people in the van, and the maid that saw the van saw a BLONDE woman driving it.

But it makes clear that whatever suspect description is being "covered up" isn't particularly very "Middle Eastern" appearing.

1 posted on 10/11/2002 8:49:27 PM PDT by John H K
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To: John H K
Epps, one of several people detained briefly yesterday, said FBI agents told him he matched a tentative description of the shooter . . .

I'm guessing that Mr. Epps will either leave the area immediately or spend the rest of his life walking around naked with his hands in the air. Just to reassure us.

2 posted on 10/11/2002 8:54:15 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
This one deserves a Mega Ping.
3 posted on 10/11/2002 8:57:42 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: John H K
I wonder if the cowardly sniper is a recently fired gas station employee. He seems to like shooting at their customers (Thinking out loud).
4 posted on 10/11/2002 8:58:15 PM PDT by elbucko
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I bet they are two kids between the ages of 16-19. PC Gamers as well as hunters. One kid is lower middle class the other is middle or upper middle class. They took the poaching and sniper idea from rabbits and video games to people. That is my personal opinion... but what the hell I know.
5 posted on 10/11/2002 8:58:19 PM PDT by manfromlamancha
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I know you enjoy debunking things,but,have you seen a picture of Mr. Epps?If not,what is there in "about 5-feet-9, of medium build with sandy brown hair and a mustache" that "isn't particularly very "Middle Eastern" appearing."?

Another excerpt states:"Many are skeptical that the white van is more than a dead end. Some investigators said they don't doubt that witnesses to yesterday's shooting saw the van, but noted that none knew whether the occupants – some reported seeing one and others two – had anything to do with the shooting. Indeed, the focus on the van may be as much a reflection of the dearth of hard information as it is eyewitness reports."

So,maybe that BLONDE woman isn't very important to the case either.

6 posted on 10/11/2002 9:05:35 PM PDT by John W
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What picture? I don't think the perps would be anywhere near a gas station, etc. video camera.
7 posted on 10/11/2002 9:07:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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d the maid that saw the van saw a BLONDE woman driving it.

I have a guy working for me that has beautiful long blonde hair that he keeps under wraps. Two years ago he was driving his wife Mercede convertable in Reno a cop stopped him thinking he was going to hit on a blonde. Jim said when the cop saw him his face turned beet red and became belligerent and searched the car looking for a excuse to bust him.

16 posted on 10/11/2002 9:21:03 PM PDT by tubebender
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I'm bursting with ideas, so this is what's been nagging at me the last couple of days. I could be WAY off, but I could be right on too.

They don't have a CLUE WHAT the shooter looks like. I'll bet a dollar to a dime that there is a connection between the 'stings' all over America on Al Queerda sleeper cells, the fact that we're starting to crack down on the local muslim nutsos and the fact that this marksman is shutting down gas stations (oil economy), attacking our public learning institutions (day care) and striking fear into Americans surrounding ordinarily safe outdoor activities like mowing the yard (freedom in general). They said McVeigh was contrary to my hunch last time, and it turns out that only a complete dolt would deny the evidence of an arab connection in OKC. I believe this is the next plan of attack from within, and the sleepers are waiting to see how we react and what freedoms we volutarily and by irrational and emotional legislation give up. This particular indvidual (do we really know it's just one shooter?!) could be a trained terrorist, but I doubt he's trained US military, because only a complete moron leaves shells behind after single and double round hits. I'm 75% convinced in my gut that we are seeing phase II of muslim terror striking America. If I'm right, how long will it take for the next major metro complex of sophistication like the beltway to start taking hits. Look at the result out east: high school football games closing, people avoiding gas stations and fearing for their lives, parents staying home with children from work and school, everday life totally disrupted over 1 (?) rifleman.
I believe the sleepers are waking and going 'hot' before they get nailed. The trail on their rears is starting to lead somewhere, stateside, and they know it. There are 1,000,001 reasons why NOW we would start seeing the next, rather simple but ingenious, more spooky form of terrorism. And, if I'm right, then it won't matter how many cops are on the streets, it's every man for himself.

That raises the next logical question. In light of all the freedoms that Americans, more than gladly, gave up shortly after OKC and 9/11, could registration, confiscation, nazi-neighbor-paranoia and door-to-door searches (freezing the constitution to protect us??) be far away for America?

People said that there would never be a Central World Government, today people are simply asking if it's a good idea. 24 US Senators voted yesterday to cede US warmaking powers to the United Nations.
The crazier things sound anymore, the more likely there's some truth in there somewhere.
Keep your thinking caps on folks...

17 posted on 10/11/2002 9:21:21 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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what is an officer's first duty? is it to check on the injured or is it to try to apprehend the criminal first. i understand that he ran to the injured man first...did he follow protocol? wondering...
20 posted on 10/11/2002 9:29:40 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: John H K
....the maid that saw the van saw a BLONDE woman driving it.

But it makes clear that whatever suspect description is being "covered up" isn't particularly very "Middle Eastern" appearing.

I know you like to play the contrarian,but even you must have heard of Dolly Parton and her wigs.

27 posted on 10/11/2002 9:52:31 PM PDT by kristinn
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The Ramada Inn search was most likely prompted by a witness, interviewed by Whoraldo yesterday, a black truck driver from the Carolinas, familiar with hunting rifles, who was across the road at the time of the shooting. He seemed credible, calm and not given to embellishment, and said he was certain that it was a rifle shot, and that the shot came from the Ramada Inn -- from above, as if shot from a balcony.

It's easy to understand how difficult it is to piece together what happened, considering that witnesses don't intentionally lie, but may subconsciously jump to conclusions in their mind. His attention was drawn to the Ramada Inn by direction, which was probably accurate, but was his estimate of the shot being fired from a balcony accurate, or just a guess?

The same goes for contradictory sitings of the occupants of white vans -- all the witnesses could be correct, given the popularity of white vans, but are any of those drivers relevant?

51 posted on 10/12/2002 7:25:40 AM PDT by browardchad
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Obviously, the fact that Epps has a hooked nose bigger than Klingers, was wearing a turban and caftan, carrying an illegal sniper rifle, and riding a camel were over-looked by the FBI.
53 posted on 10/12/2002 7:38:28 AM PDT by Doc Savage
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So they are going to profile white guys? Sounds racist.
67 posted on 10/12/2002 9:40:00 AM PDT by Bernard
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