I THINK THE SNIPERS ARE AL QAEDA

Various Cable Networks ^ | 11 October 2002 | Myself

[r9etb]

I also believe that some shots were missed and due to the distance, the noise was not even noticed or taken into account.

The "never misses" aspect is part of the mythology surrounding the guy. Everybody seems to assume the truth of it -- but there's absolutely no basis for the assumption!

If we toss in the idea that the guy has missed some shots, and the whole thing takes on a different aspect.

[M. Peach]

Nice post - My feeling is that the investigators know this, but they don't want to freak out the public. I think it is quite possible that the elusive white truck may be driven into a nearby garage, or a large Tractor-trailer container and calmly driven from there.

I think this is a healthy way to explore various methods that they may be using. I agree with you that this is a team, and a organized, planned operation.

[M. Peach]

I don't think he even noticed the cop.

[M. Peach]

I'll bet Gertz lurks on FR!

[Brytani]

All were sexually motivated with the exception of men who were killed in order to get to their female victims.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Finally, there are instances of serial killer "teams", including a young guy and his girlfriend who in the '50s killed several people from long distance, using a rifle. Interesting point. But digging back to the '50s isn't impressive. If it's a team, the odds of it being serial are greatly reduced. It seems like a team to me. A lone killer would most likely have messed up by now with this kind of intensity.

[zeaal]

Might be AQ, but if so, would they be killing on the muslim holy day, Friday? Or might they excuse themselves from the holy day by saying allah told them to do this on the holy day? Or might they be doing it even on a Friday to throw the LEOs off?

I dunno.

[marron]

Obviously we all suspect a Muslim connection. But I keep thinking about the OKC bombing, where there was an apparent Muslim/Aryan Nation-type linkup.

[swarthyguy]

Agreed. Apologise for ripping into you.

[Little Bush]

I believe this is why, it seems, white males are the dominant possibilities in the "no-emotion" attacks. It's easier "not to care" when you have less family to fall back on. As much as blacks have crime, there seems a strong emotion connected towards their victims, such as hate, anger, etc.

[Skywalk]

And if I'm not mistaken, the only male-female killing team in the 50s was Caril Fugate and Charles STarkweather, and they didn't kill anyone at long range.

[RedsHunter]

I readily agree that Marine S/S are the best in the world and, while I generally like your overall theory, one thing in particular makes me think that it's not Al Qaeda terrorists are not doing the shooting ... the Tarot card supposedly left behind at one scene. Two things about it ... as I understand it, no self-respecting Mooselem would touch or look at, or even write upon, a graven image of his God, let alone write on it in manner so to present himself as a God to others, even his infidel prey.

My best guess right now ... a team of "home grown" whack jobs, maybe even video gamers, out on a spree but not the type willing to die in hail of gunfire, or even go the suicide route like Harris and Kliebold, if their violent end becomes inevitable.

[swarthyguy]

Please read this book. Sometimes i feel i'm the only one who's read it.

Aristeides, sorry for the wrong info. Here's the correct info.

David. D. Lowman -

MAGIC - The Untold Story of US intelligence and the evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast in World War II.

Athena Press, UTAH. ISBN:-- 0960273611

Please ping others who might be interested in the subject matter.

Funny thing, Hoover was against the solution proposed by the military which was implemented by FDR.

[aristeides]

Thanks, that book is available through Amazon.

[Molly Pitcher]

Apparently Gertz was on TV this a.m. making the foreign terrorist case pretty insistently.

Don't know if this was discussed here, tho , as I haven't caught up with today's threads...

[CDHart]

"Why isn't the media even thinking about the Islamic terrorism angle?"

They're thinking about it. The problem is that most states have allowed the insertion of "terrorist exclusion clauses" in their workers' comp. and liability insurance policies. So if someone names all this as "terrorism" the insurance companies don't have to cover the claims.

Carolyn

[swarthyguy]

Some ammo to refute the conventional wisdom....

David. D. Lowman -

MAGIC - The Untold Story of US intelligence and the evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast in World War II.

Athena Press, UTAH. ISBN:-- 0960273611

[swarthyguy]

Wow! So now we have a huge institutional bias against considering terrorism in cases like this.

Thanks for the info. Any articles or info you can post and ping me on sometimes. If this issue generates some heat....

You sound like you're in the industry. So this applies to private insurance as well?

[Little Bush]

White Male Nutcase Thread

[Senator Goldwater]

Eyewitnesses at Seven Corners describe the shooter as being of middle-eastern descent, which is an area of the world not known for its concentration of white males.

The Middle East, that is, not Seven Corners.