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1 posted on 10/11/2002 8:57:25 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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I raised this point (along with many others, I imagine; 700 posts are hard to review quickly) on the live thread running today. I stepped out my back door for a smoke, and on the 3-4 streets I could survey, I counted 16 white vans in less than 5 mins. Of course they were all utility vans, AT&T, Avista Utilities, Qwest, and some local small businesses, but still, there are too many to count. I dont think that the perps are in a van at all, much less a white one...JFK
2 posted on 10/11/2002 9:00:57 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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Yes, most utility vans are white. You could go to nearly any intersection in any city over 15,000 and you would see a white utility van go by within 10 minutes.
3 posted on 10/11/2002 9:03:25 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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Reached for comment, Van Johnson had none. <|:)~

4 posted on 10/11/2002 9:04:13 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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What you say is true, but the white van seen leaving the scene today was bumping other vehicles in order to get away.

Presumably now they will have some forensic evidence, (paint chips) to narrow down the make, model, and year of this white van. Interestingly, there is a ladder mounted on this van.

5 posted on 10/11/2002 9:05:13 AM PDT by Semper911
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"Everything is gonna be all white"
6 posted on 10/11/2002 9:06:22 AM PDT by ChadGore
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Yeah. Sitting in a restaurant last night, I noticed that one went by every few minutes, sometimes two at a time.
7 posted on 10/11/2002 9:06:31 AM PDT by ilgipper
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Yep it is simply a matter of paying attention...
Ever notice that what ever kind of vehicle you are interested in ..or are thinking about buying seems to be everywhere?..kinda like blondes
ok maybe its just me... :)
8 posted on 10/11/2002 9:11:19 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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"I agree!"

10 posted on 10/11/2002 9:18:01 AM PDT by Revolting cat!
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I was just talking about this with my wife. The media in the DC area is horrible. They would sell their mothers to get out as much info as possible without thought to the repercussion(tarot "I AM God" card). Anyway, every two minutes they talk about a white van, A WHITE VAN!!!! Now, I am afraid, the only thing people look for now when they are at one of these horrible scenes is to ONLY look for a white van like vehicle. And like everyone is pointing out, there are a lot of them out there.

I am afraid, that the sniper is laughing his ass off while he drives away in a Honda accord.

BTW, that white van pushing other cars out of hte way to leave the area, was stopped and it was just some scared guy trying to get the hell out of ther area.
11 posted on 10/11/2002 9:21:39 AM PDT by SengirV
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Have you ever noticed that most vans are white?

More evidence that the white van keeps the black van down.

12 posted on 10/11/2002 9:25:22 AM PDT by dead
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As I posted elsewhere.....
I’m starting to get a sneaky suspicion that the “white van” maybe a decoy. You know, let team 1 set up for the shot and a super clean team 2 goes and parks close by the victim.
After the shot they just drive away ..reinforcing the clue that a white van is the perps auto... if their stopped they’re clean... In the mean time the shooter/shooting team gets away......OR..

as someone else said...

the shooter may be just waiting for a "White Van" to come close and since he is shooting at a randum target shoots the first clean shot he has...(remember most Gov't Vans are white) IMHO
14 posted on 10/11/2002 10:00:20 AM PDT by Robe
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[IMG]http://rustheman.homestead.com/files/van_morrison.jpg[/IMG]
15 posted on 10/11/2002 10:06:33 AM PDT by Rustheman
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I think they probably are driving a white van or minivan. They can "hide in plain sight" that way. Two of my other, random, thoughts about the "random killers":
16 posted on 10/11/2002 10:24:04 AM PDT by syriacus
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Either this guy is going to have to give himself up, or a citizen is going to have to disarm him, or he's going to have to buy air time on the networks and cable news, identify himself, and give the police directions how to pick him up. Or this thing is going to go on forever.

If you need a dozen donuts from Krispy Kreme, the police can be of potential service. Seriously expecting the police to solve this case is a stretch.

The killer is giving away clues to try to be caught. Next steps: painting "I'm the sniper!" on his van in 6-ft. high letters, and listing his name, address and phone number; and driving 10,000 miles a week on the beltway.

If that doesn't work, he'll wear a sandwich board with the same info and walk 24x7 in front of the entrance of the Justice Department in DC for a month.



19 posted on 10/11/2002 10:47:01 AM PDT by Man of the Right
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Guess it depends on where you live. Out here vans come in two colors: beige and grey (and the grey ones usually have burgundy trim). Vans are the prefered vehicle of serial killers (used to be powder blue VW bugs) so there's a good chance this isn't a red herring (or I guess white herring in this case).
21 posted on 10/11/2002 10:54:43 AM PDT by discostu
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The profiling police are coming...
22 posted on 10/11/2002 11:01:54 AM PDT by MadMoo
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The reports have been all over the place on the vehicle angle: white box truck, white van, white box truck with double-wheel rear axle, Dodge Caravan with panel sides instead of windows, white Astro van, etc. Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable. And you're right, white is one of the most common vehicle colors. I know. I work for one of the major Japanese vehicle mfrs.
26 posted on 10/11/2002 4:55:08 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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