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'Most muggers are black'
The Evening Standard (London) ^ | 11 October 2002 | Tim Rider

Posted on 10/11/2002 6:37:12 AM PDT by UKCajun

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To: Phillip Augustus
there is not a single fact in the history of the world that would frighten me, or that is not worth knowing.

I couldn't agree more. But, sometimes what is presented as "fact" is really just a distorted version of the truth. Racial categories like "black" and "white" have always been subjective. You could be 90% German stock and just 10% African stock but be categorized as "black". I wouldn't doubt that a large percentage of "African-Americans" can trace their roots directly to Europe.

The Imperial Federal Gov't shouldn't be categorizing Americans according to skin color. In studying crime rates, there are more important factors, such as income level, geographical location, and so on.

Some here have pointed out that poverty doesn't make someone commit a crime. Well... neither do skin color and facial features. And, yet, we allow our gov't to continue to classify people in that way.

If we're going to complain about hyphenated Americans and the gov't giving special protection to groups, we going to have to let go of these "racial" classifications altogether. And, to whomever might be thinking that I'm being politically-correct, I want to point out that political correctness would require that we keep the classifications.

61 posted on 10/11/2002 9:32:56 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: sushiman
I will PAY for a first-class ticket on the Concorde!

I would pay for him to have been aboard TWA Flight 800....

62 posted on 10/11/2002 9:33:34 AM PDT by archy
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To: Rye
...And I also wouldn't doubt that most serial killers are white.

Not necessarily. Just the ones they've caught...

-archy-/-

63 posted on 10/11/2002 9:34:56 AM PDT by archy
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To: Rye
"And I also wouldn't doubt that most serial killers are white."

Now if we could just get the serial killers to target muggers exclusively we'd only have half the problem solved.

But it would be fun to watch.

64 posted on 10/11/2002 9:38:43 AM PDT by E.Allen
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To: Blood of Tyrants
FYI, almost half of all violent crimes are committed by blacks.

Why?

65 posted on 10/11/2002 9:38:44 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: archy
BUMP
66 posted on 10/11/2002 9:38:45 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: biblewonk
Generations of dependency on the government handouts has brought illegitimacy in the black community to over 70%. IMHO, the lack of a stable male in the house to smack some heads (when they need it) is the biggest problem.
67 posted on 10/11/2002 9:50:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: apackof2
I'd be willing to pony up the entire fare.
68 posted on 10/11/2002 9:53:11 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: UKCajun
A curious question develops

I have often thought the roots of crime are cultural. But does this give creedence to a genetic argument?

I have no opinion on that, just wondering.

PS I hope I don't get tossed just for asking.
69 posted on 10/11/2002 9:55:24 AM PDT by republicman
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To: Freedom4US
I agree that crime causes poverty, but the DemonRats can't use that to pander to their constituency of losers and America-haters.
70 posted on 10/11/2002 9:55:51 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: andy_card
I looked at your profile. You said you are still trying to recover from two original sins: a brief stint in the Carter White House (held over from the Ford Admin.), and an equally brief professorship at the Kennedy School. I apologize for that.

Apparently you have fallen off the wagon.

71 posted on 10/11/2002 9:57:12 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Generations of dependency on the government handouts has brought illegitimacy in the black community to over 70%. IMHO, the lack of a stable male in the house to smack some heads (when they need it) is the biggest problem.

The handouts are available to whites too. Why the 70 percent?

72 posted on 10/11/2002 9:59:37 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: Rufus B. Washington
Only fools and liberals think that poverty causes crime.

Bingo!

73 posted on 10/11/2002 10:03:49 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: republicman
I have often thought the roots of crime are cultural. But does this give creedence to a genetic argument?

I have no opinion on that, just wondering.

It opens the door to that false argument, but at least you are asking a question. Some here state it as a fact.

74 posted on 10/11/2002 10:03:50 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: biblewonk
Why 70%? Because by the latest numbers, that is what it is.
75 posted on 10/11/2002 10:04:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: biblewonk
P.S. A quick Google sheach will confirm this.
76 posted on 10/11/2002 10:08:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I'll agree with your point, but you must concede that arthur anderson, global crossing, worldcom, enron, quest, citigroup, jp morgan, imclone, martha stewart, fill in the blank with the stock fraud of your choice, were almost exclusively white crimes that probably cost the US economy hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars.
77 posted on 10/11/2002 10:09:41 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I believe the number, my question is why is the number for blacks 70 percent given the same situation as whites. Handouts are available to whites too, why is it not 70 percent for them.
79 posted on 10/11/2002 10:14:12 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: andy_card
You wrote:

Thank you, but what's the purpose of that information?

And the mind boggles. In free Western society, information is valued for its own sake. To ask for the "purpose" of information is usually the province of theocrats and tyrants.

Oh, and leftists, I suppose.

But if you just publish statistics in order to attack folks just on account of their skin color

So, you are a mind reader. You read Blood of Tyrants' mind and determined that the reason he posted statistics was "in order to attack folks just on account of their skin color". It couldn't be that they are facts and worth knowing.

Once again, this is the tactic of a leftist: attack your opponent's motives, and impugn evil purposes which you think are lurking behind his words. You simply cannot grant that Blood of Tyrants could be sincere in his attempts to enligthen.

After all, what political "purpose" would that serve you?

80 posted on 10/11/2002 10:16:48 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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