'Most muggers are black'

The Evening Standard (London) ^ | 11 October 2002 | Tim Rider

[andy_card]

You might enjoy a bit more respect here if you begin to realize you have ingested buckets of slime from people who lie to you. Or, I guess you can just continue to enjoy being an ignorant slug.

That's nice.

[Kozak]

Mr Blair pointed to the American example set by the Reverend Jesse Jackson, the former US presidential candidate. "We need a Jesse Jackson," he said.

Hey you can have the ORIGINAL for free!

[andy_card]

Why do you think crime rates were so low in the Great Depression? Why do you think they were so much lower in the 1950's than they are now?

What are you talking about? The crime rate soared in the Great Depression. I think its time for you to crack out the old FBI Unified Crime Reports.

[aristeides]

I know I have read the crime rates were low in the Depression. If that's wrong, I imagine you can provide a link.

I know from personal experience that crime rates were low in the 1950's. As I said, I lived in the South Bronx at the time.

Can you explain why crime rates soared in the decades after, when prosperity also soared?

[wardaddy]

Some data:

Incarceration alone will not solve North Carolina's crime crisis. We must also focus on preventing crime by addressing the conditions that give rise to it. That does not mean increasing government spending on jobs programs or social programs. There is no historical relationship between crime rates and either poverty, joblessness, or government social spending. Crime rates during the Great Depression were much lower than they are today. The real cause of crime is not a poverty of resources but a poverty of values. Research has clearly documented a relationship between out-of-wedlock births and the likelihood that those children will grow up to be criminals. That means that welfare reform and other measures to reduce government dependency and illegitimacy are irreplaceable elements of a successful crime prevention strategy. (from johnlocke.org)

By the same token, a bad economy doesn’t always bring more crime. Crime rates fell about one third between 1934 and 1938 while the nation was struggling to emerge from the Great Depression and weathering another severe economic downturn in 1937 and 1938. Surely, if the economic theory held, crime should have been soaring.(heritage.org)

The United States has spent 5 trillion dollars on welfare since 1965. As welfare spending has increased 800%, the number of major felonies per capita has roughly tripled since 1960. Senator Phil Gramm once commented that "if social spending stopped crime, America would be the safest country in the world." Poverty is not the cause of crime. People as a whole were poorer in the past than today, but crime was not higher in the past. Poorer nations do not have higher crime rates than the United States. Crime rates dropped during the Great Depression and in the recession of 1982. (Data from Imprimis, October, 1995, vol. 24, no. 10)

Lastly, this graph: I'm not crazy about the source but if one can find a graph to refute it please do. Bear in mind that most experts agree that today's actual murder rate would be approximately 3 times the rate compared to the rate from 70 years ago due to medical improvements and emergency attention response time shrinkage. If one takes this into account then it signifies that our adjusted murder rate is over 3 times that as in the "poverty stricken" Great Depression. Note murder rate "cliff dive" during the early 30s to mid 40s

link here

[Lilly]

I would chip in for a one way ticket, plus everyone I know would chip in and set up a nice bank account for him on the condition that he never returns to the States.

[wardaddy]

I heard Liddy going on about Sowell's study a few weeks ago. Sowell had to essentially cloak the nature of the study to get funding.

Imagine a very respected black scholar has to use subterfuge in order to get funding for a race based IQ study. The study was interesting. I wish I could remember more of his findings than just the one you mentioned.

I bet Cornell West would have had millions thrown at him to try to prove that whites or asians have been "dumbing down"..lol

[aristeides]

Thanks for the data. That's long been my understanding.

[sneakypete]

Where did Blair get the idea that Jesse Jackson solved any crime or black youth problem?

JJ once said during a interview that "when I hear footsteps behind me at night and I turn around,I'm relived if it is a white man following me". May not be a exact quote,but close. The whole discussion was about the high number of blacks involved in street crime.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Most muggers are black.

Yes. So are most violent criminals in the cities.

[RWG]

More empirical confirmation for the validity of racial profiling.

[FreedominJesusChrist]

"The deputy head of the Metropolitan Police has launched an attack on political correctness, saying that society cannot ignore the evidence that most muggers are black."

This has been a fact that law enforcement has known for years; they have also known for years that the vast majority of serial killers are white middle aged males and have not been afraid to state this. Profiling can never be politically correct because it uses basic stereotypes and assumptions about humans and human behavior as the premise for its accuracy.