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Tree-sitter injured in fall from redwood
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 10/9/02 | MICHAEL DE GIVE

Posted on 10/09/2002 7:15:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

Tree-sitter injured in fall from redwood

By MICHAEL DE GIVE
Sentinel STAFF WRITER

CORRALITOS — A tree-sitter protesting logging in the slopes above Ramsey Creek fell 50 feet from his redwood perch and onto a stump Tuesday night.

The man was believed to have fractured an arm and leg in the fall. The steep terrain and gravel roads forced rescue workers to leave their vehicles and hike more than half an hour to get to the scene, said Dave Sumner, a senior emergency dispatcher.

An air ambulance was waiting nearby about 9 p.m. Tuesday as rescuers carried the injured man back down the densely wooded hill. The fall was reported at 7:12 p.m.

Earth First! Santa Cruz spokesman Dennis Davie confirmed two of its members have been living in redwoods since August in the 150-acre, second-growth forest owned by Redwood Empire, a San Jose-based logging company. The company, owned by Roger Burch, owns hundreds of acres in Santa Cruz County.

The group says the erosion caused by logging the property pollutes Ramsey Creek, which feeds into both Browns and Corralitos creeks, all habitat to threatened steelhead trout.

The Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s Office, California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection and American Medical Response responded to the incident.

The forest is near Mount Madonna off Hazel Dell Road.

Contact Michael de Give atmdegive@santa-cruz.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: environment; salmon; timber; treesitters
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I have an unconfirmed report that the young man is dead.

The claims about logging, silt, and salmon in Ramsey gulch are garbage. I have the data.

It's a tremendous waste of energy and the desire to do good. I hate seeing these stupid kids die for lies. I just want it to stop.

1 posted on 10/09/2002 7:15:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
These trees are killing WAAAAAAAAAAAY too many people. What with the skiing, the car wrecks, and now just sitters. We should perhaps be calling for a ban on these dangerous trees.
2 posted on 10/09/2002 7:17:49 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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3 posted on 10/09/2002 7:17:59 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Carry_Okie
If a tree-sitter falls in the woods... ?
4 posted on 10/09/2002 7:18:35 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: sasquatch; hedgetrimmer; Sir Francis Dashwood; EggsAckley; Boot Hill; RightOnTheLeftCoast; ...
Darwin death ping.

If we can sue tobacco makers for causing deaths with false advertising, should the families sue environmental groups for this?
5 posted on 10/09/2002 7:18:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
I think that we need tree control.
6 posted on 10/09/2002 7:19:37 PM PDT by ikka
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To: All
If a "Watermelon" (Red on the inside, Green on the outside) falls in the forest, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
7 posted on 10/09/2002 7:21:06 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: Carry_Okie
Oh jeez. How have we raised such generation of fools who would give their lives to prevent people from using their own property as they see fit?

Poor young foolish man.
8 posted on 10/09/2002 7:21:17 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; farmfriend; madfly; dirtboy; sauropod; AuntB; okie01; marsh2; backhoe; ...
Another one bites the dust.

Though he was sacrificed on Gaia's altar, I'll bet he was saying "Oh God," on the way down.

Tragic stupidity.
9 posted on 10/09/2002 7:22:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
The group says the erosion caused by logging the property pollutes Ramsey Creek...

They're saying soil is a pollutant?

10 posted on 10/09/2002 7:24:23 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: hedgetrimmer
Young deadbeat sitting in a tree....
F-A-L-L-I-N-GEE
11 posted on 10/09/2002 7:24:25 PM PDT by outpost44
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To: Carry_Okie
FROM THE ARCHIVES WHEN A YOUNG FOOL NAMED JENNA WENT ON A TRESPASSING AND CLIMBING ADVENTURE IN THE DARK -----

MIDI - IF I FELL

If I fell out of the tree…would you please not laugh at me
And try to understand
It is creepy way up there…thirty feet up in the air
Will you hold my hand

I can’t hear the birdies sing…3:00 AM’s dark
You can’t see a freaking thing…it’s no walk in the park

So-called friends said watch your grip…I took a breath
I knew if I made one slip…it could mean death
But they…said that we would have a ball…you’ll see
Only idiots could fall…certainly

I remember mom would say…to use my brain
Please be careful how I play…do not do things insane

Now I’m getting scared…and it…ain’t looking good
If my life is spared…this tree…is firewood
Oh, no…I am falling on my rump…or worse
My head might crack on that stump…what a curse

I can’t hear the birdies sing…it’s cold and dark
In fact, I can’t hear a thing…oh, what a stupid lark
What a real boneheaded lark

12 posted on 10/09/2002 7:25:30 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: hedgetrimmer
Poor young foolish man.

Isn't "foolish young man" somewhat redundant? I sure was, and perhaps still am. Hell I was in a ditch above a cliff today wrestling a 250 pound boulder for an hour and a half just to reverse an erosion problem. Danged thing easily could have killed me.

I just want to strangle the idiot teachers, glass-clinking lawyers, and fat-assed professors who never took care of a forest in their lives for filling this poor kid's tortured mind full of garbage.

It's lethal.

13 posted on 10/09/2002 7:27:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
TFB. It is not society's job to protect the stupid from themselves. There are far greater problems. It seems to me he died in the commission of a crime-trespassing on private property. Hopefully, falling out of trees becomes the norm for these fools.
14 posted on 10/09/2002 7:28:41 PM PDT by bfree
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To: NovemberCharlie
From my book:
Wherever there is dirt and water, there is mud. Whenever you mix mud and water, you get suspended silt. Mud is a nonpoint source of silt. Silt is found everywhere there is dirt, which is everywhere. If you want to control the use of dirt, just call it a pollutant! It isn’t clean water any more, it’s dirty. People don’t want dirty water. They want clean water. Just ask them.

To determine culpability for a source of silt is even harder than for nitrate. Nonpoint mud is a much harder sell for an initial action in nonpoint pollution enforcement than human feces. Natural causes of silt in the County of Santa Cruz vastly outweigh human contributions. Sources of silt vary by location and degree every year. To assign individual causes is highly subjective…

The State Water Resources Control Board employs five specialists assigned to institute nonpoint TMDL standards in the Central Coast Region. At the time of this writing, one third of the TMDL documents on their web site deal with the San Lorenzo River Watershed. Why are they focusing upon such a small community as the San Lorenzo Valley, in a County with timber practices touted as some of the finest in the world?

Santa Cruz County is a perfect test environment for enforcement of TMDL upon sources of nonpoint silt. It is one of the few places in the world with both nonpoint nitrate problems from urban and agricultural sources and silt problems involving a rural/suburban forest, coho salmon, and timber harvesting. It also has an entrenched activist bureaucracy, a thoroughly proven political machine, and a university activist community with which to supply the “experts” to make it all happen.

This kid died for a real estate scam.

15 posted on 10/09/2002 7:31:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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16 posted on 10/09/2002 7:33:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Carry_Okie
You remind me that earlier today I was cutting the dead limb off an apple tree, where a huge branch from a neighboring maple tree had fallen across it and was precariously perched. The whole works probably weighed about a ton. It always makes me nervous to hold a chain saw over my head like that--plus it gets wood chips in your eyes. But what else to do? I'm still alive, and the branch is firewood.
17 posted on 10/09/2002 7:35:02 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: bfree
TFB. It is not society's job to protect the stupid from themselves. There are far greater problems. It seems to me he died in the commission of a crime-trespassing on private property. Hopefully, falling out of trees becomes the norm for these fools.

No doubt about it, he was a criminal thug, taking use of other people's property to satisfy his personal desires. I just think that he didn't get that way on his own. He was trained for this event from the time he entered the doors of the public schools.

18 posted on 10/09/2002 7:35:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Arkinsaw
Obviously an Assault-Tree! No need for trees that tall or powerful. The young man just found out "GRAVITY....not just a good idea....IT'S THE LAW!"
19 posted on 10/09/2002 7:35:35 PM PDT by pgobrien
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To: Carry_Okie
It's a tremendous waste of energy and the desire to do good. I hate seeing these stupid kids die for lies. I just want it to stop.

It's called survival of the fittest and elimination of the weak.(and weak minded)

20 posted on 10/09/2002 7:36:44 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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