Posted on 10/07/2002 8:09:29 AM PDT by dead
When is a planet not a planet? That is what astronomers will be asking themselves after yesterday's announcement of the biggest planetary body discovered in the solar system in more than 70 years.
The new body, called Quaoar (pronounced Kwah-o-ar), is a round world that orbits the sun every 288 years, at a distance greater than that of any of the nine planets. At 1250 kilometres wide, it is bigger than any of the asteroids. In fact, it is bigger than all the asteroids put together.
But it is also just over half the size of the smallest planet in the solar system, Pluto, which already struggles to be classified as a planet because of its size. For that matter, it is just over a third the size of our moon. But unlike a moon, it does not orbit a planet.
So what is it? Its discoverers, Mike Brown and Chad Trujilo from the California Institute of Technology, say Quaoar (and Pluto) should be referred to as "Kuiper-belt objects".
The Kuiper belt is like the asteroid belt. But while most asteroids orbit between Mars and Jupiter, the Kuiper belt inhabits the solar system far beyond the orbit of the eighth planet, Neptune.
"Quaoar definitely hurts the case for Pluto being a planet," said Professor Brown. "If Pluto were discovered today, no one would even consider calling it a planet because it's clearly a Kuiper-belt object."
Quaoar - named after the creation force of the Tongva Indian tribe, the original inhabitants of the Los Angeles area where the Caltech campus is located - was discovered in June, but not announced until yesterday.
Its discoverers are still determining how quickly it spins, so they can work out the length of its "day". They are also trying to determine what precisely it is made of and even if it has a thin atmosphere.
Ross Taylor, from the Australian National University's geology department, said the Kuiper belt was the remains of the massive cloud of gas that coalesced into the sun and planets billions of years ago.
He agreed that neither Pluto nor Quaoar should be known as planets, but instead as "ice-dwarfs". Both bodies, and even the innermost planet Mercury, were all smaller than two of Jupiter's moons and one of Saturn's. But such labels were a grey area, he said. "It's arbitrary. You get into a real semantic sort of swamp. It's like trying to define life," he said.
But Professor Taylor said that Quaoar was definitely not the mystical "Planet X" for which astronomers have searched vainly for decades. When Neptune was discovered in 1846, its orbit differed markedly from that which astronomers calculated it should be. It was assumed another planet was pulling it off course.
But when Pluto was discovered in 1930, it was too small to exert such a pull.
Eventually, said Professor Taylor, scientists realised the discrepancy could be explained because they had wrongly calculated Neptune's mass.
But he predicted many more Kuiper Belt objects would be discovered as only a fraction of the sky had been searched. "I think it's probable that we'll pick some up to Pluto's size," he said.
Quaoar's finders, who are continuing their search for Kuiper-belt bodies, agree.
"Right now, I'd say they get as big as Pluto," said Professor Brown.
None of them, however, are likely to be labelled planets, and even Pluto may lose that privilege from the powers-that-be.
"I think the International Astronomical Union are trying to get their nerve up on this (Pluto)," said Professor Taylor.
Let's send Daschle and gang, along with SoDamn Insane and his merry band of muslims there to create their own Utopia. I'll volunteer to punch their tickets! ;^)
It's the Palestinian State.
Let's call it "Hillary's Heart"!
Valuing the Difference of the Multicultural Diversity Alert! I'm sure the object was named for the Tongva because of their sophisticated lnowledge of astronomy...
I hope this is not for real. You are joking right?
Firstly, This presumes that there is another star closer than the established closest star to our solar system, Proxima Centauri( 4.22 light years away) which is itself a memeber of a Alpha Centauri triple star system. So, from the best of modern astronomy, we do not have a close neighbor star(we'll call it "nemesis"), with which we are interacting.
Secondly, if there were a planent in binary orbit(presumably orbiting both stars) around us and nemesis, then it would be impossible to find it until it did make a very close passby of Sol. You see, if this planet is not emitting any light(non star's do not emit visible light - I know some joker will say something about jupiter), then the only light we would be able to see is that reflected from our star or reflected from nemesis. Since we can't find friggen nemesis itself, there is no hope of finding the planet until it came VERY close to Sol itself. If something like this actually did happen, it would be concidered a rogue interstellar planet anyway BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEMESIS!!!!!
Finally, don't you think a story like this would have gotten a little airtime by now?
But why worry about Iraq and WMD if such an event were to occur?
There's something definitely queer about the name Quaoar. Why don't they name it Clinton? It sounds like this thing is a worthless lump, and nothing of any importance on Earth will ever bear Clinton's name.
That would explain a lot!
I have no clue as to what would be the name of this planet. Considering that it is supposed to influence Pluto, who was king of the dead, maybe Orpheus. Or Mickey Mouse.
You Earthlings are so arrogant. What makes you think that you get to decide what's a planet and what isn't? Suppose we decided that Earth isn't a planet? What then, Mr. Big-shot humanoid?
Lemme tell you something about Pluto. We've been around longer than you have. In fact, we've had space travel for almost 200 years. You know those people you have that you call "Democrats?" Well, I've got news for you, buddy. They're all from Pluto. We got tired of 'em screwing up our elections, so we sent them to your stupid little planet.
Don't tell me, they don't follow the rules, do they? They cheat, and they lie, and they stack the courts to get away with it. Well, they're your problem now. Hah!
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