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Saudi mission to promote softer side of Islam
The Daily Telegraph via The Muslim News ^
| October 6 2002
| Philip Delves Broughton
Posted on 10/06/2002 3:17:37 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: tessalu
So far as I know, Calvinism never killed anyone, or used force to make anyone believe it. You had better read up on the Thirty Years War before you repeat that assertion. The Calvinists were just as bloody as the Lutherans and the Catholics.
... Catholic and Lutheran princes could determine the religion practiced in their territory was maintained, and this privilege was extended to include the Calvinists as well. [SNIP]
Over 300,000 had been killed in battle. Millions of civilians had died of malnutrition and disease, and wandering, undisciplined troops had robbed, burned, and looted almost at will. Most authorities believe that the population of the Empire dropped from about 21,000,000 to 13,500,000 between 1618 and 1648. Even if they exaggerate, the Thirty Years War remains one of the most terrible in history.
The Thirty-Years-War
It takes a real dork to believe in a religion that will cause you to be killed if you deny it or leave it.
That was true of Christianity throughout most of its history. In fact, that was true of most religions thoughout history. Toleration is a modern concept. I'm glad that you believe in it.
To: South40
Those commercials piss me off every time I see them. I posted exactly that a couple nights ago, and got a couple of responses similar to this.
To: knighthawk
Don't forget the Bible is banned along with movie theatres.
To: Looking for Diogenes
I believe in tolerating those that will tolerate me and mine. This does not include those who believe in Islam.
I will become tolerant of Islam when there are churches and synagogues in downtown Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Islamabad, Karachi, Jakarta, and similar locales, and the locals aren't trying to burn them down and kill the attendees.
To: FreedomPoster
I will become tolerant of Islam when there are churches and synagogues in downtown Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Islamabad, Karachi, Jakarta, and similar locales, and the locals aren't trying to burn them down and kill the attendees.
...a list of 126 churches that were damaged or destroyed in Indonesia between June 1996 and January 1998.
The nation's attention turned to the rising numbers of church arson when in 1996 over 400 churches burned across the [U.S.].Charles Osgood
National Church Arson RegistryDecember 31, 1998 New Salem United Methodist Church, Commerce, GA
January 1, 1999 Johnson United Methodist Church, Bishop, GA
February 11, 1999 Crowell United Methodist Church, Reynolds, GA
July 7, 1999 Calvary United Methodist Church, Waycross, GA
November 9, 1999 Salem United Methodist Retreat cabin, Covington, GA
November 22, 1999 Mt. Hope African Methodist Episcopal Church, Macon, GA
To: Looking for Diogenes
I had never considered it might be Islamists behind that phenomenon here in the U.S., but I sure will now.
To: FreedomPoster
LOL. Yeah, that is a possibility.
You'd better call the FBI. They'll want to know.
To: knighthawk
Saudi Ariabia is the source of Al-Quaeda's:
Leadership
Personnel
Funding
Ideology
Schooling
Escape Routes
Al-Quaeda is a creature and natural outgrowth of Saudi Arabia. The war is not over until the House of Saud falls.
LET'S ROLL!
To: Alouette
ONE HUGE MEGA BUMP TO THE TOP FOR A TERRIFIC POST! With a history like that....Saudi Arabia is going to have a very hard sell in this house.
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10/06/2002 6:07:52 PM PDT
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Republic
To: Republic
The fact that this capsule history of Saudi Arabia was written by another Muslim, for other Muslims (his followers), can we assume that it is therefore the truth which they won't admit to the infidels?
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10/06/2002 6:13:17 PM PDT
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Alouette
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To: Alouette
Ohhhhhhhhhhh....let me think........hmmmmmmmmmmmm....I have it, I've got the answer to your question....a resounding, irrefutable, absolute, without a shadow of a doubt--->
YES!
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10/06/2002 6:38:52 PM PDT
by
Republic
To: FreedomPoster
Its no secret that liberal run American networks will air just about anything for the right amount of money. I do however, think they should refrain from airing propaganda targeting the American psyche no matter what the payoff.
Remember the comments of Saudi price al-Walid when he visited New York? He called on the US to make a balance in her foreign policy towards the Palestinians and to study the motives and the reasons behind the incidents of September 11, basically saying that we deserved it. Guiliani refused his ten million contribution to the victims fund, and rightfully so. Now they say they are our friends? Hockey puck!
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10/06/2002 7:39:29 PM PDT
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South40
To: knighthawk; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Travis McGee; Poohbah
His Excellency Abdullah Turki has one of the hardest jobs in public relations: arguing the case that Islam, as practised in Saudi Arabia and taught in Saudi-funded mosques around the world, is not as frightening the West thinks it is.A tough job indeed, like selling Chelsea as "a glamorous social butterfly."
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10/06/2002 7:44:44 PM PDT
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dighton
To: Alouette
The House of Saud is the diseased old whore that suckles and sustains radical/militant Islam... Wahhabism The treacherous two faced lying bitch has earned our hatred, and deserves to feel the wrath of a brutal American vengeance.
Semper Fi
To: knighthawk
Don't worry. He'll find enough soft-headed "useful idiots" to whom he can peddle his fish.
To: valkyrieanne
Oh, and most of those useful idiots will be in the media, on college campuses, and in the US State Department.
To: dighton
Actualy, Chelsea in purple or black tent/veil would be an improvement. And Hillery would be forced to stop yeppin' about too.
Ship 'em off to Saudi Arabia!
To: FreedomPoster
I will become tolerant of Islam when there are churches and synagogues in downtown Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Islamabad, Karachi, Jakarta, and similar locales, and the locals aren't trying to burn them down and kill the attendees. Then it wouldn't be Islam anymore. It would be another religion because Islam has another goal.
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10/08/2002 5:56:31 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: knighthawk
Screw the Saudi PIGS!
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10/08/2002 6:00:12 AM PDT
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blam
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