FBI: Maryland shootings fit no category

Authorities are said to have a description of the shooters but are not releasing it. They've reviewed video tapes from security cameras at some of the businesses where the shootings took place

HUH???

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29178

FRIDAY
OCTOBER 4
2002
Posted: October 4, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

Though al-Qaida training videotapes and manuals captured in Afghanistan specifically show the planning of attacks on Americans in drive-by shootings, experts who have analyzed those materials are cautious about concluding the murder spree outside of Washington yesterday is connected in any way to terrorism.

The videotapes and training manuals, which show Osama lin Laden's terrorists have prepared to kill Americans with small-arms fire from trucks and vans, were first revealed in a WorldNetDaily report last month.

But John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials, said the rash of shootings in a small area of suburban Washington in a short period of time is unusual but not altogether unique.

"It's not inconceivable that this will turn out to be a terrorist attack," he said. However, he cautioned against jumping to any conclusions without more information.

The training video captured in Afghanistan shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:

using pickup trucks with shooters concealed in the bed of the trucks;
using motorcycles as a shooting platform for drive-bys and assassinations;
execution of prisoners;
ambushes of law-enforcement officers;
residential assassinations;
assassination on a golf course using a rocket-propelled grenade and rifle fire;
drive-up kidnapping of target walking on a street;
use of tunnels, storm drains and sewers for infiltration during urban raids;
rappelling from rooftops of buildings to make entry on upper floors;
use of motorcycles for grenade attacks; and
raids on buildings with large numbers of occupants – perhaps schools or office buildings.
Skip Gouchenour, a licensed detective in Pennsylvania who has analyzed the videotape and other training materials and made a presentation on them for the Pennsylvania Detectives Association, agreed that the Maryland shooting and murder spree is very unusual.

"I'm not dismissing the possibility of a terrorist connection," he said. "It's strange, indeed."

Gouchenour specializes in investigating murder cases for district attorneys, defense attorneys, police agencies and private citizens. He says he has run across similar murder sprees in his career, but finds some of the details of this case unusual.

Police across the Washington area are searching for what they describe as "a skilled shooter" who killed five people in a random death spree beginning Wednesday night and continuing yesterday morning in Montgomery County, Md.

The shootings took place at two shopping centers, two gas stations and on the lawn outside an auto dealership along Rockville Pike. The victims were ordinary people doing ordinary things on a seemingly ordinary day.

As a result of the attacks, children were kept indoors at schools in the county.

"We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose yesterday. Police said they are looking for a small, slightly damaged white truck that may have black lettering on the side. Witnesses to the shootings said they saw a truck matching that description leaving some of the crime scenes.

Montgomery County police spokesman Derek Baliles said police suspect the shooter was armed with a rifle.

About 40 minutes before the first killing, a shot was fired through a window of a Michael's craft store in the 3800 block of Aspen Hill Road. No one was hurt, but Montgomery County police said they believe the incident may have been related to what followed.

The first fatal shooting occurred Wednesday night at 6 o'clock, when James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring was killed in the parking lot of a Shoppers Food Warehouse at Randolph Road and Georgia Avenue in Wheaton. By yesterday morning, the stores in the area were open for business as usual. A security tape from a camera that monitors the lot had been turned over to police.

Then about 7:40 a.m., James Buchanan was pushing a lawn mower over a narrow strip of grass in front of the Fitzgerald Auto Mall on Rockville Pike when he was shot.

The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver. It was about 8:10 a.m., at a Mobil gas station on Aspen Hill Road at Connecticut Avenue in Aspen Hill, when the killer struck and Walekar died pumping gas.

About 8:30 a.m., Sarah Ramos, 34, was sitting on a bench at the shopping center near the Leisure World retirement community off Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring when the killer next took aim and fired.

It was just before 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington and Lori Lewis-Rivera, 25, was vacuuming her minivan. The station, at the corner of Knowles and Connecticut avenues in the heart of Kensington, is visible from all directions. But again the killer struck as if coming from nowhere.

Throughout the day the manhunt intensified, but as night fell there had been no arrests. Though authorities have downplayed the possibility of terrorism, the FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Secret Service have all been involved in the investigation.

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com, Inc.

This was said yesterday too,

"...two men in a white van or "box truck"..."

If they want to catch these bozos then I don't understand why they won't release the perps race.

"...and he's not a terrorist..."

Oh, No, couldn't be. Oh, and thank goodness some of the victims were white, so it's not a hate crime either.

If they want to catch these bozos then I don't understand why they won't release the perps race.

Maybe because the perps look like the fellow from 9/11?

The shooting at the El-al counter ins LA wasn't a hate crime or a terriorist attack, either.

Two white men, two black men, ages, whatever, that information would have been released I believe...I can only think they are trying to confirm Islamikazes before they announce it. It would start a panic when they do.

Double HUH! These paternalistic LE tactics prevent me from being able to make sound decisions to protect myself and others. It also tells me it ain't two white guys.

Maryland shootings fit no category

Uh. Here in Georgia, we call that one "pI$$ed off dude".

Maybe they should add a new catergory to their list.

>>> I don't understand why they won't release the perps race.<<<

Ten bucks cash says they are not "white."

Yeah, go figure. We're not allowed to see who it is that's trying to kill us. They're probably pixifixing the tapes to make it look like a couple of angry white militia types.

My feeling is that this was just a practice run for the main event - coming to a Main Street, Anytown USA near you. If you have a carry permit, or live in a free state, now's the time to exercise your 2nd Amendment duty and stay vigilant, should these terrorists forget that Americans are slow to anger, but merciless once the balloon goes up.

" And it's not a serial killer. "

No, Mr. Du Mass Profiler, it's a couple of serial killers.

First, every alphabet agency in the area trots out various rifles that might use .222, .223 or .224 cal. ammo and puts them on a table at the circus.

Now they come out with this statement that they don't really know what or who to look for?

The air between the collective ears of these agencies is infinite.

They could learn a thing or two from the Borg...

They want us to help look for them and they know what the look like they are just not going to tell us. Uh huh..and next they will say its not terror related right??yep.

I wonder what they're name they're going to come up with for this "entirely new category of crime". Perhaps they'll call it 'murder'?

he's not a terrorist

Really? Since they don't know who it is, how can they say that?

The killing spree that began in Montgomery county appears to have continued last evening with the shooting of a man in DC, and then later today with the shooting of a woman at Michaels in Fredericksburg.

This looks remarkably like the string of killings a few years back where the guy started out Friday evening shooting folks near a Northside Chicago synagogue, and ended up a number of killings later with him shooting a Korean kid going into or out of a church in Bloomington, Indiana.

In that case the killer belonged to one of a number of "Identity" churches. These are neo-Nazi operations whose false prophets preach evil doctrines.

Their big complaint is against Jews (and not "the Jews"), and what they call ZOG, or Zionist Operated Government.

Some of the Ku Klux Klan types in Howard County Md (adjacent to Montgomery) have Identity affiliations as do both of the major motorcycle gangs in the area (one of which is called "The Pagans". I don't know the other, but rival gang's name.)

The lady killed sitting on a bench in front of the post office is instructive in this regard. She was an Identity "two-fer". First of all, she's there at the post office, and secondly, this is the one that serves the local Leisure World retirement community. I don't know about that one, but I know about a couple of others where we have inlaws, and most of the folks living in those communites are Jewish.

If I am correct in my "profiling" these guys shot her because she was near Leisure World, and maybe also because she was near the post office (their sworn enemy so we are told which is why I pay attention to news about these guys.)

The other situations involve people in or near businesses popularly believed (according to Identity affiliate propaganda sites) to be Jewish owned. It doesn't matter who owns these businesses as long as Identity believes what it believes. They will act on their belief.

Their own literature tells us that all the rest of us are potential targets. Either we willingly do business with Jews, or we are Jews, or we are friends with one, or we live near one, or we are out in the parking lot, or whatever reason they can think of to kill people.

You just know these guy's suffer from some serious sexual dysfunction that does not respond to viagra.

But, that's beside the point. The methodology is the same.

Oh, yes, does anyone out there know why all the cops believe the shooter to be a white male? (No one has seen the shooter, so how is it that they know this to be true?)

It is not surprising the FBI admits it doesn't have a clue. No doubt one of their big boys thinks its Eric Rudolph, tanned, rested and ready from his vacation in a North Carolina cave.

So what would motivate two assailants to randomly target five victims in a Maryland suburb, and possibly a sixth in D.C., killing each with a single shot from a high-powered rifle?

Trying to strike terror into the hearts of U.S. citizens? The shootings were consistent with Al Qaida training tapes.

Oh, they might be. Remember Malcom X (Blondie Muz)or the two "lily whites" the Iraqi's found for the Murrah Building.

Authorities are said to have a description of the shooters but are not releasing it

Maybe the description of the shooters isn't a very good one (or they've got a few conflicting descriptions). But still, this seems really pathetic.