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FIRST PHOTOS OF SUSPECTED TERRORISTS ARRESTED IN PORTLAND!
KXL Radio, Portland ^ | 4 Oct 2002 | KXL Radio Portland

Posted on 10/04/2002 1:59:55 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

Battle, Ford and Lewis, from left to right. US-born American citizens.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; alqaida; blackmuslims; portland; sleepercell; terrorism
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To: bonesmccoy
In this case, though, it has nothing to do with ethnicity, it has to do with a radical political philosophy that is diametrically opposed to the republican principles on which this nation was founded.

Now, that's not to say that the press wouldn't try to "demonize" conservatives who report that the emperor has no clothes. But h*ll, they will demonize conservatives just for breathing, so who cares?

The point is that you have to mobilize opposition to this small number of radical extremists who wield influence in the Democrat party and, by extension, in American political life far beyond their numbers.

It would not take a huge majority of the electorate to do that, either. FR is partial proof of concept.

Look at McDermott. It is time to begin pointing out relentlessly and incessantly the extremism of that man's views. He exemplifies what I'm talking about.

Now, you can make a point about "racism" if you go after their strategy of illegal enfranchisement since the people who are the pawns in that game are "of color," but it wouldn't be that hard to get a large minority of the LEGITIMATE electorate to realize that it isn't race, but SOCIETY/CULTURE/PHILOSOPHY that is at issue here.

For example, much is made of the "racism" and attendant "racial profiling" of potential terrorists based (it is alleged) on the ethnicity of the targets of such profiling.

But in reality it is coincidental that these people were Arabs. The cogent point is that they belong to a radical, extremist, anti-liberty, anti-American faction of Islam, which has its most fertile ground in the Middle East.

Intelligent people know this, and attempts by the effete liberal snobs to air their own "white guilt" laundry by attacking "racial profiling" gets play ONLY because those effete liberal snobs have access to the microphone out of proportion to their numbers.

A listen to local and national talk radio, however, reveals that this attempt at turning the discussion away from reality isn't working, and won't work.

In short, it's time for conservative Republican candidates to stop being afraid, and start speaking out. There are many that do, but there are too many that don't.

181 posted on 10/04/2002 8:01:35 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: wardaddy
Nah, forget that...you need to be thinking more in the lines of Druidism/tree worship with that Celtic background. I hear you get to dance around a bonfire at Beltaine and then there's wild--*ahem*--fertility rituals all night! ;-)
182 posted on 10/04/2002 8:18:33 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Illbay
A thought provoking response (by the way Angels 5 Yanks 6, 7th inning);

It is easier for a political party to paint negative pictures. Negative propaganda can be done to inflame rhetoric and racially charge discussion. The problem is that it takes an intellectual person to comprehend the GOP message, and alot of the RATS aren't that intellectual (witness Streisand's remarks).

You are correct that the issue is not race, but in the arrests today; the race of the suspects is obvious...they're tied to black muslim radicals.

In various ethnic parts of America, these radicals have been attempting to sway the younger people. The usual war cry is "let's get them". When you research it, the "them" is the "white establishment" or "squares" or "those guys".

If the GOP candidates actually enunciate these views, then they look bad to the ill-informed swing voters. So, I would suggest that the informed simply need to go to other places on the internet and begin a counter operation to theirs.

Perhaps we can use Freepmail to identify, target, and then freep various web discussion board sites.

183 posted on 10/04/2002 8:24:14 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: Miss Marple; savedbygrace
<< Patrice Lumumba was a male African dictator. [I forget which country] >>

[Former Belgiun] Congo. [Republic of]
184 posted on 10/04/2002 10:08:55 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: stanz
Help me with my history. Wasn't Dag Hammararskjold killed by a bomb on a airplane on a trip the Congo wile Lamumba was in power?
185 posted on 10/04/2002 10:28:08 PM PDT by oyez
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To: savedbygrace
If you're right, it's a big story..

Registered Dims, I'm betting.

186 posted on 10/04/2002 10:30:28 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: savedbygrace
If you're right, it's a big story. FOX News?

Registered Dims, I'm betting.

187 posted on 10/04/2002 10:31:13 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: stands2reason
Well.....I'm a very enthusiastic proponent of fertility rituals.....I believe if my Celtic history is accurate that in ancient Gaul, it was not uncommon for the tribal leader to be staked out to die of exposure or thirst etc. once he was no longer "up" for said rituals....

talk about pressure to perform for the maidens...lol
188 posted on 10/04/2002 10:48:11 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Patriotic Bostonian
lol
189 posted on 10/04/2002 10:52:26 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: AmericanInTokyo
More confirmation for racial profiling.
190 posted on 10/05/2002 5:28:46 AM PDT by RWG
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To: B Knotts
God Bless you for your post in #162. You gave us so much information and more stuff to go on. Wow. This is going to be interesting. And as a sidebar, cannot Freepers in Oregon do a Freep of the offices of Mayor Katz? With all that national TV attention out there, she would be as nervous as hell to have this show up on her doorstep. Could be the impetus for a recall.
191 posted on 10/05/2002 5:53:29 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: RWG
Well, well, well..the CHINA CONNECTION on the part of Comrade Ford explains how he and and "Miss Octoberfest" were able to wander around CHINA as an entry point to get into Afghanistan to try to team up with Taleban/alQaida to fight our American brothers and sister. The guy is fluent in Chinese, lived there, knows the territory, and invariably has contacts. I think we may be looking at more than black panther or socialist radicals turned Islamists; we may be dealing with foreign intelligence agents here or at least people trained and controlled for an agenda.
192 posted on 10/05/2002 6:02:02 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Correction here: October stayed behind and used Western Union, serving as the guys' paymaster while they were overses, trying to get into Afghanistan from China after first going through Hong Kong.
193 posted on 10/05/2002 6:10:26 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The guy is fluent in Chinese, lived there, knows the territory, and invariably has contacts. I think we may be looking at more than black panther or socialist radicals turned Islamists

While watching those exclusive CNN tapes terror tapes, I remember taking note that there were Chinese individuals in one of the clips. It was the clip that showed several terrorists entering what appeared to be some sort of safehouse in Afghanistan.

194 posted on 10/05/2002 6:15:33 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
OK, I believe I have more of a Portland Terrorist-China connection.

A previous poster had the story where one of the father of one of the bad guys, Patrice Lumumba Ford, said his sone was a graduate of a Johns Hopkins University (Baltimore) international program.

Putting together the fact he studied in China, also that he was fluent in Mandarin, BINGO....I have what seems to be the connection.

Patrice Lumumba Ford attended, more than likely, the Johns' Hopkins University Paul Nitze School for Advanced International Studies (SAIS) Center in Nanjing, China in the mid -1990s.

Here is the link to the SAIS campus in Nanjing, China. This is no flybynight school--very elite.

URL: http://www.sais-jhu.edu/Nanjing/index.html

195 posted on 10/05/2002 6:26:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Or he might have been at a related school in Beijing. Certainly the foreign student in Beijing or Nanjing China aspect for one of these six terrorists is a very interesting avenue indeed. On top of it, language fluency.

This is not some ghetto street punk.

196 posted on 10/05/2002 6:27:58 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Miss Marple
We know they are in gangs, prisons, and preying on suburban teenagers in Marin County, California.

In most of these cases the feds have been able to make terror connections to al qaeda. What is unsettling to me is not knowing how many are out there with clean backgrounds that have been or will be picked up and released because there is no direct linkage to al qaeda. In retrospect, I'm convinced that the Florida flight school kid was a brainwashed recruit.

197 posted on 10/05/2002 6:40:21 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Texas_Jarhead

198 posted on 10/05/2002 10:47:26 AM PDT by rockfish59
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