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Terror link to Maryland shootings? Experts divided whether killing spree work of al-Qaida
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 4, 2002

Posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Though al-Qaida training videotapes and manuals captured in Afghanistan specifically show the planning of attacks on Americans in drive-by shootings, experts who have analyzed those materials are cautious about concluding the murder spree outside of Washington yesterday is connected in any way to terrorism.

The videotapes and training manuals, which show Osama lin Laden's terrorists have prepared to kill Americans with small-arms fire from trucks and vans, were first revealed in a WorldNetDaily report last month.

But John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials, said the rash of shootings in a small area of suburban Washington in a short period of time is unusual but not altogether unique.

"It's not inconceivable that this will turn out to be a terrorist attack," he said. However, he cautioned against jumping to any conclusions without more information.

The training video captured in Afghanistan shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:

Skip Gouchenour, a licensed detective in Pennsylvania who has analyzed the videotape and other training materials and made a presentation on them for the Pennsylvania Detectives Association, agreed that the Maryland shooting and murder spree is very unusual.

"I'm not dismissing the possibility of a terrorist connection," he said. "It's strange, indeed."

Gouchenour specializes in investigating murder cases for district attorneys, defense attorneys, police agencies and private citizens. He says he has run across similar murder sprees in his career, but finds some of the details of this case unusual.

Police across the Washington area are searching for what they describe as "a skilled shooter" who killed five people in a random death spree beginning Wednesday night and continuing yesterday morning in Montgomery County, Md.

The shootings took place at two shopping centers, two gas stations and on the lawn outside an auto dealership along Rockville Pike. The victims were ordinary people doing ordinary things on a seemingly ordinary day.

As a result of the attacks, children were kept indoors at schools in the county.

"We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose yesterday. Police said they are looking for a small, slightly damaged white truck that may have black lettering on the side. Witnesses to the shootings said they saw a truck matching that description leaving some of the crime scenes.

Montgomery County police spokesman Derek Baliles said police suspect the shooter was armed with a rifle.

About 40 minutes before the first killing, a shot was fired through a window of a Michael's craft store in the 3800 block of Aspen Hill Road. No one was hurt, but Montgomery County police said they believe the incident may have been related to what followed.

The first fatal shooting occurred Wednesday night at 6 o'clock, when James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring was killed in the parking lot of a Shoppers Food Warehouse at Randolph Road and Georgia Avenue in Wheaton. By yesterday morning, the stores in the area were open for business as usual. A security tape from a camera that monitors the lot had been turned over to police.

Then about 7:40 a.m., James Buchanan was pushing a lawn mower over a narrow strip of grass in front of the Fitzgerald Auto Mall on Rockville Pike when he was shot.

The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver. It was about 8:10 a.m., at a Mobil gas station on Aspen Hill Road at Connecticut Avenue in Aspen Hill, when the killer struck and Walekar died pumping gas.

About 8:30 a.m., Sarah Ramos, 34, was sitting on a bench at the shopping center near the Leisure World retirement community off Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring when the killer next took aim and fired.

It was just before 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington and Lori Lewis-Rivera, 25, was vacuuming her minivan. The station, at the corner of Knowles and Connecticut avenues in the heart of Kensington, is visible from all directions. But again the killer struck as if coming from nowhere.

Throughout the day the manhunt intensified, but as night fell there had been no arrests. Though authorities have downplayed the possibility of terrorism, the FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Secret Service have all been involved in the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; banglist; beltwaysniper; dcsniper; dcsnipers; snipertimeline; snipertraining
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To: All
Some info on high power rounds can be found here...

http://www.nosler.com/
141 posted on 10/04/2002 7:25:03 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Darnright
"You don't what other assault rifles he might own."

Somebody smart said that you never discuss your guns or your sex life in polite company.

Excellent advice.

142 posted on 10/04/2002 7:26:06 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: Darnright
"You don't what other assault rifles he might own."

Somebody smart said that you never discuss your guns or your sex life in polite company.

Excellent advice.

143 posted on 10/04/2002 7:26:39 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: spunkets
"They did?

Yes...they did...the witch hunt is on...they are asking good people to report anyone they know who may have "these type of rifles"---why???? because they have no description of the perp(s)..this is to make it look like they are getting somewhere. All the emphasis on the weapon and NOT on the criminal(s) makes me feel like this WILL be used for an anti-gun campaign.

144 posted on 10/04/2002 7:26:56 AM PDT by two23
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To: xsrdx
And carry them to your car trunk in a golf bag.

In this case, I would not rule out a scoped T/C Contender pistol in .223.

145 posted on 10/04/2002 7:28:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: sam_paine
Yesterday was 10-02-02. You might want to read this article linked below:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/759786/posts
146 posted on 10/04/2002 7:29:38 AM PDT by R_Kangel
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To: 1Old Pro
I'm already hearing speculation that the shooter, who was skilled, may be a disgruntled white male "hunter" and probably a conservative to boot. They say the rifle was something a "hunter" might use.

A .223 round is a varmint round...like raccoon, opossum, etc...I would not use a .223 for deer.

147 posted on 10/04/2002 7:29:51 AM PDT by two23
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To: Travis McGee
No way a pistol.
148 posted on 10/04/2002 7:29:55 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Free Trapper; bang
Just add **bang to the post to box.

Turn in your neighbors folks! They're out to collect them all!

149 posted on 10/04/2002 7:32:45 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: 1Old Pro
may be a disgruntled white male "hunter"

Didn't early reports say that witnesses saw two men in a white truck? That would indicate more of an organized attack than a crazed lone gunman.

150 posted on 10/04/2002 7:34:39 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Free Trapper
Looks like an auto function is working and addressing the name "bang" works.
151 posted on 10/04/2002 7:34:49 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: R_Kangel
OOPs! My mistake!!! Forgot to change the date on my watch. It's still early out here on the Left Coast. Yesterday was 10-03-02. I will now crawl back into my box and turn my brain off like a good Californian.
152 posted on 10/04/2002 7:35:04 AM PDT by R_Kangel
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To: All
FNC just said 'authorities were investigating the wounding of a man in DC last night for a possible connection'.
153 posted on 10/04/2002 7:35:22 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: GreyWolf
All very good theories (if that term is even appropriate in this context).

I have pondered the "bullet that missed" and believe it was probably an indication that something interfered with the trajectory of the shot; a branch, a car, whatever. The other shots were just too good for this to have been a simple miss.

Another poster suggested this was a gang initiation, but this seems too methodical--too planned--too well executed. Almost military.

Unlike others I don't think there will be any other incidences for a while.

Seems more like the anthrax terrorist writ small. Where was Stephen Hatfill yesterday????? Just wondering.

154 posted on 10/04/2002 7:35:51 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: 1Old Pro
I guess people should turn in any neighbors who might be Republicans.
155 posted on 10/04/2002 7:36:56 AM PDT by js1138
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To: freeperfromnj
Didn't early reports say that witnesses saw two men in a white truck?

Don't know, but that would be very important info.

156 posted on 10/04/2002 7:37:16 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Travis McGee
In this case, I would not rule out a scoped T/C Contender pistol in .223.

I dunno, certainly possible but I've heard rumors of ranges over 100yds? Tough shot even for a scoped Contender.

IMO it's likely a plain vanilla scoped 223 bolt "varmint" rifle, given the (unsubstantiated) "long range" and precise shot placement. Soft point bullets probably, given the lethality, and the single shots fired cast some doubt on the "assault rifle" theory.

157 posted on 10/04/2002 7:37:20 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: js1138
I guess people should turn in any neighbors who might be Republicans.

Wouldn't that be, GASP, profiling?

158 posted on 10/04/2002 7:38:13 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: JohnHuang2
You know what we should do, if this is Al-queda*sp*, for every person they kill like this, we should kill 2 at X-ray.
159 posted on 10/04/2002 7:38:28 AM PDT by LivefromVegas
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To: tomkat
Just caught that too...is he alive or dead?
160 posted on 10/04/2002 7:38:33 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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