Bush dead wrong about Iraq

Pahrump Valley Times ^ | 09/18/02 | JAMES BO GRITZ

[Heartlander2]

The Islamic Jihad will strike America after Bush invades Iraq. The level of violence and damage will likely exceed Sept. 11, 2001! This I can promise you.

Right now there are unguarded nuclear weapons in the U.S. waiting to be used by terrorists against us. Known as SADMs (Small Atomic Demolition Munitions) or "suitcase nukes," these pocket bombs have the blast power of 5,000 tons of TNT. Moreover, their surface radiation contamination and "fallout" magnifies the footprint of these man-portable weapons.

SADMs are part of the many Soviet Unconventional Warfare caches secreted throughout America (as we did in Europe) during the cold war in anticipation of general war between the USA and USSR.

There will be no extreme acts of Islamic terrorism in the United States if Bush does not massively damage innocent Arab lives, property, infrastructure and economic means. This I can also promise you.

The 9-11 attack was in direct retaliation for such "collateral" destruction during Desert Storm - even as Pam Am 103 (Dec. 1988) was retribution for the U.S. downing of an Iranian AirBus 300 (July 1988).

I am a loyal American citizen - not a mind reader, or in communication with any terrorist contact. The reason I know what will happen is because I understand the Holy Koran and Islam. I trained Afghan Muhajadeen, was an advisor in Saudi Arabia, and have conducted operations in East/West Africa (Muslims), Indonesia and Bangladesh. While this was more than 10 years ago, the Koran has not changed a single scintilla.

After the WTC and Pentagon bombings, I publicly assured Americans that there would be no further acts of Islamic violence as long as Bush did not go beyond reason in searching out and exterminating the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

The Koran is specific in concerning jihad warriors, revenge, and spiritual rewards. Islam cannot attack an enemy until attacked; then they must respond in a like degree - ergo following the Desert Storm blitz, the jihad targeted the WTC representing coalition economy, while the Pentagon was the primary military nerve center.

We had no Islamic terrorism in American until we attacked Iraq. The jihad assaults against the U.S. Marines in Beirut, U.S. Airmen in Saudi Arabia, and U.S. Navy in Yemen were in opposition to U.S. military occupation in Islamic nations. There are many ancient Arab sayings - the thrust of many being: If you don't want trouble with Arabs, leave them alone.

Not since the Goebbels and Hitler stage-production of the invasion of Poland, has the world witnessed such a snow job by the cast of George "mini-me" Bush and company trying to justify a second blitz of Iraq. They have failed to tie Saddam with Al-Qaeda, or prove that he has weapons of "mass destruction" beyond what we gave him during his seven-year war against Iran. What makes the Bushwhacker's cry for hair, eyes and teeth even worse is the means he intends to use.

General Wayne Downing is a friend of mine. Before serving in the White House as chief advisor to NSC-head Condoleezza Rice and Tom Ridge (Homeland Security), Wayne was CincSOCom (Commander-in-chief, Special Operation Command, at McDill AFB, Florida). Every Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, Paratrooper, Green Beret, and Delta Force operative was under his command. Wayne walked away from the White House on 26 June because he could no longer support the Bush plan for taking out Saddam Hussein.

The "Downing Plan" called for a small group of special forces working with Kurds and some dissident Iraqis to "cut the head off the snake" allowing the body to die, while placing only a handful of Americans in harm's way. Tommy Franks favored a 200,000-man military force to accomplish the same task. Bush gave the nod to Tommy and his army.

Back to my warning and promise. General Downing's plan is completely within the Muslim law forbidding any retaliation. The Bush-Franks solution demands an equal reaction - more homeland terrorism - this time possibly big-time!

More terrorism means more homeland defense. Where does it end? A slave is an example of a perfectly secure person. This is our country. We can stop the deployment of 18-year-old National Guardsmen and the invitation for greater terrorism in America. As individuals we can't do everything, but we can all do something. Notify our three congressmen to act for us in keeping our military guarding America so we can sleep peacefully at night. The Attorney General may say that Bush doesn't need Congress to attack Iraq, but it doesn't mean Congress can't bulldog mini-me before he stampedes the herd!

[Gelato]

There will be no extreme acts of Islamic terrorism in the United States if Bush does not massively damage innocent Arab lives, property, infrastructure and economic means. This I can also promise you.

This is an incredibly naive view of what we're up against in this war on terror.

Mr. Bo (Rambo) Gritz seems to believe that the Islamic extremists such as those who attacked us on September 11th act out of retaliation, that they are peaceful unless provoked. But such individuals are already filled with such a murderous hatred for the United States. They are already looking to exterminate us, whether we do anything against them or not. Regardless of our actions against Iraq, they want to kill us.

Preemptive strikes are our only option against such an enemy!

[rstevens]

This man is and always has been a mercenary. No telling who is paying him, and he probably don't care. Money and ego is and always has been this man's driving force. He must be at least 75 y/o by now. Just a delusional old man slipping into the twilight of his life.

His theory is if payback between rivals is just exactly the same, a bloody nose for a bloody nose, then the conflict can stop, but one breaks the others nose, then its time to take out an eye....

Mr Gritz is under estimating our CIC, military and will of the American people. Next big hit by them, will bring about their total destruction, and shame on their asses if its nuc or bio or chem. We will wipe them off the face of the earth.

Personally, I think OBL and his crew are running scared, never anticipated we would go to such retalitory measures like we did after 9/11. I believe they are totally confused and are praying to their Allah that one of their sleepers will not make a foolish mistake and try to target us again.

I think, if OBL is not dead, he knows we know exactly where is he and will take him out if another incident happens. We could take him out now, but the collateral damage is not worth it at this time. One more incident, I believe and he believes, will be his dying ass.

[sinkspur]

We had no Islamic terrorism in American until we attacked Iraq.

Uh, we removed Iraq from another sovereign nation, Kuwait. Iraq precipitated a worldwide action against it.

Bo Gritz has already had one nervous breakdown; sounds like he's on the verge of another.

[The KG9 Kid]

Listened to Bo Gritz give a speech for about ten minutes at a gun show once. A couple of years later, he tried to commit suicide by shooting himself in the chest.

He's an unstable wacko.

I haven't seen a recent picture of him, but someone might want to check to see if his skin has turned blue.

[jenny65]

He doesn't seem to understand the difference between the mind of a truly defeated enemy and an undefeated one. It may not end with Iraq, but I can guarantee Bo this: When President Bush's (mini-me?...what an a** you are, Bo Bo) vision of the war has played out, there will be NO MORE attacks on America by camel humpers.

That philosphy hasn't exactly worked too well for the Israelis has it? And how much more defeated can the Palestinians be?

[katze]

Can't call myself a fan, but he's no slouch.

[RightWhale]

Right now there are unguarded nuclear weapons in the U.S. waiting to be used by terrorists

These would be suitcase size, but way over the weight limit on airlines. Are there any? Total conjecture, hardly more than an initial assumption for an article.

If one of these is detonated, expect every apartment, meth lab, and hovel in America to be fine-tooth combed day and night by officials and deputies until everyone is satisfied there is no further danger. That would be a time of martial law as well, appropriately so. America will emerge clean and purged, and may remain clean and purged for quite a while afterwards. Then we may resume our regularly scheduled exercise of freedom.

[Arkinsaw]

There will be no extreme acts of Islamic terrorism in the United States if Bush does not massively damage innocent Arab lives, property, infrastructure and economic means. This I can also promise you.

How can he promise?

The 9-11 attack was in direct retaliation for such "collateral" destruction during Desert Storm.

Manure. Al-Qaeda's goal is driving the United States out of the Middle East and in particular the Arabian Peninsula. They also have the goal of ending our support for Israel. They also have the goal of reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate and overthrowing governments in the region that they view as corrupt and replacing them with Islamic states. Mr. Gritz thinks that everything they do is a reaction to our actions and that if no action is taken on our part that they go dormant and have no other goals. Pure 100% unadulterated concentrated manure.

The reason I know what will happen is because I understand the Holy Koran and Islam.

So do lots of other people and almost none of them think that Al-Qaeda will sit on its hands if we cower in fear.

After the WTC and Pentagon bombings, I publicly assured Americans that there would be no further acts of Islamic violence as long as Bush did not go beyond reason in searching out and exterminating the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

Makes no sense. He is saying that he knew that Al-Qaeda would not harm us as long as we only whipped their asses "reasonably". Good to know that Al-Qaeda is willing to take a "medium-size" butt whooping gracefully as long as we don't lay the "jumbo" on them. Nice guys.

The Koran is specific in concerning jihad warriors, revenge, and spiritual rewards. Islam cannot attack an enemy until attacked;

And even then only for "unreasonable" attacks not of the small to medium variety.

then they must respond in a like degree - ergo following the Desert Storm blitz, the jihad targeted the WTC representing coalition economy, while the Pentagon was the primary military nerve center.

Never mind that they used civilian airliners with women and kids on them as the weapon and also sought to fly into the capitol which is a symbol of the people through their representatives.

We had no Islamic terrorism in American until we attacked Iraq.

I guess throwing the wheelchair bound Mr. Klinghoffer overboard does not count. Nor does killing the Navy Seal who was just a passenger on an airliner. Nor does the kidnapping of journalists, teachers, and religous men in Beiruit. Nor does the seizure of the US Embassy in Tehran count as Islamic terror.

U.S. Navy in Yemen

The USS Cole was not occupying any Islamic nation, it was purchasing fuel and supplies during a port visit.

Troops in Saudi Arabia

US Troops in Saudi Arabia have never occupied Saudi Arabia. They are there at the behest of the Islamic Saudi government. Originally sent there at the behest of the Saudi government to protect it from other Muslims with a bit of a greedy streak. If Saudi Arabia publicly requested them to leave they would be gone inside a week.

Not since the Goebbels and Hitler stage-production of the invasion of Poland, has the world witnessed such a snow job by the cast of George "mini-me" Bush and company trying to justify a second blitz of Iraq.

Comparing Bush to Hitler eh? Mr. Gritz needs to head to Germany. He could probably get a hot date.

[Travis McGee]

Gritz is off the deep end.

[Billthedrill]

To be charitable, Bo's been out of the intel loop for awhile now. We could shoot Saddam in the head in Macy's window on the 4th of July and half the Arab world would stand up and cheer. In fact, so would at least half of the Iraqis.

[Heartlander2]

According to the Las Vegas Mercury (9/19/02), BO lives in Sandy Valley. A little more from BO in the Mercury...

Former Green Beret Col. James "Bo" Gritz is warning of dire consequences in the event that American invades Iraq. Gritz lives in Sandy Valley these days, but previously performed numerous covert missions on behalf of the government over the years and says he was privvy to countless classified briefings. He alleges that several suitcase nukes were buried by Russian agents inside the U.S. during the darkest days of the Cold War and that a few of those hidden bombs have now been sold to Islamic militants. He predicts the Muslims won't use the nukes until the U.S. does something to warrant such a drastic step. An invasion of Iraq might qualify. As a footnote, the U.S. military has done plenty of work to develop its own suitcase nukes, which we named, oddly, SADMs (Small Atomic Demolition Munitions).

http://www.lasvegasmercury.com/2002/MERC-Sep-19-Thu-2002/19655759.html

[okie01]

Neo-Nazi, right-wing, militia-types.

And where does he think they get the anthrax from? Because they sure as hell couldn't have weaponized it themselves.

[rstevens]

So, why didn't they nuke us after we went into Afghanistan

Because, like Bo said we responded in kind for the 9-11 attack, so now the ledger is balanced. If we don't bother them again, they won't bother us. The score has been evened.

Doesn't that sound silly?

This guy is a real whack job.

[45Auto]

Pahrump? The same Pahrump which is home to the famous Chicken Ranch?

[45Auto]

The Chicken Ranch and Leghorn Bar (www.chickenranchbrothel.com) 10511 Homestead Road Pahrump, NV

The CR is on the left (east) side of Homestead Road, just a block south of its intersection with Silver Street (where an airstrip for the Ranch used to run to the east along the northern edge of the property) and about 3 miles south of the branch Post Office on the southwest corner of Homestead's intersection with Kellogg Road. Majority owner Russ Reade has recently changed his establishment's long-standing policy of not having an Internet presence and has comissioned a website.

This bordello takes its name (and is the home of certain memorabilia) from the famous, but long-since closed, original Chicken Ranch in LaGrange, TX.

[exnavy]

I think Jim-Bo is full of crap.

[MacDorcha]

i agree, i think that if they hd the ability, manhattan would be glowing green now... these guys dont hold punches, as soon as its possible, and the timing is right, they strike. i saw later down the poster claim that "those who know arent talking"... just food for thought, but those wh dont know are also not talking. i have no clue how credible this guy is, but if he "knows" this, then Bush knows it too, and he would make appropriate steps, the guy isnt stupid. he is the single most informed person on this planet, and he still is undaunting in his will to attack iraq. im sorry, but this post is complete bunk...

[Schmedlap]

I'll bet that Bo Grites was a great soldier and great leader of soldiers. I'll bet he is very tactically proficient. You can be all of those things, while also knowing absolutely nothing about devising a sound strategy on the coalition or national level.

His points are well taken, but I think that they only provide a strong case for revamping our immigration laws, establishing our borders, and conducting large scale annihilation of those who would be both so foolish and so evil as to try to kill American citizens.

[Mudboy Slim]

JimBo Gritz is a Lib'ral Ditz...MUD

[Mr. Mojo]

Good question. I assume he's sufficiently uneducated to believe that they stole it from some bio-lab in that weaponized state.