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What has happened to U.S.?
Me | 10/2/2002 | Me

Posted on 10/02/2002 7:15:37 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye

What has happened to our image as a beacon of freedom, opportunity and the right way to live?

Much of the world fears or hates us. We have a proclaimed policy of attacking any country whose policies or regimes don't follow our dictates.

Why have we become the biggest bully in the world?


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To: Stavka2
Poverty, both material and spiritual, is an omnipresent part of the human condition. No economic system can ever eradicate it because some human beings are incapable or unwilling to live any other way.

Your pictures prove nothing.

401 posted on 10/04/2002 1:11:56 PM PDT by borkrules
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To: Stavka2
Why those pics??? Because they were the easiest to find and I was proving a point.

Wrong Ivan, this pic on the University of Berkeley website is not easy to find....

If you follow the pic address (http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2002/08/images/light_children.jpg) it would seem to lead you from the start page at Berkeley to the News where you have a many items to choose from before you find Media Releases to the year 2002 to the month of August where the story containing the pic should be. But wait !!! The story has been pulled and placed in the Archives. So to find the pic at all you have to do a search in the Archives for a coal mining story (http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2002/08/12_coal.html). This pic is hardley easiest to find! And you no doubt, know your way around the Berkeley website very well. And I am also shure that you find the Berkeley website friendlier to your views and opinions than the FR. Yes you have outed yourself in many ways in this thread, this is but one of them.

As you Ruskies would say old man, take that cow leg and stick it in your craw!

402 posted on 10/04/2002 1:12:37 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Stavka2; Between the Lines
Between The Lines is paging us, apparently awaiting more words of wisdom.
403 posted on 10/04/2002 1:15:50 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: borkrules
I agree with you on the comment of the state of human nature. The pictures were aimed at several posters that scream that all the rest of the world is soup sandwich because such things don't exist in America. Take it in context.
404 posted on 10/04/2002 1:16:37 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Stavka2
By the way, I didn't include the commentary because I don't agree with it...but are you seriously denying that such poverty exists all over the US? Hell, just go off of the Ft. Bragg reservations and see some of the trailer parks and share croppers...or just north of Ft. Knox (south of Louiville along DieWay 30).

I don't deny any poverty in the US... I live in South Carolina, I see it all around me. I come from poverty and I live in a mobile home.

I was just pointing out for everyone what a liberal website you got all of your pics from. Your only conservative resource is the FreeRepublic.

405 posted on 10/04/2002 1:18:40 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Texasforever
Groovy.
406 posted on 10/04/2002 1:18:58 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Between the Lines
Here Bright Light...allow me to edumicate you....go to Google, type in "america poverty pictures photos" and go surf the net from their. Not all things are that difficult if you had half a brain.
407 posted on 10/04/2002 1:20:05 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: ArneFufkin; Texasforever
Educate yourself...the best part is that they are all FREE REPUBLIC articles....who's the dumb flee eating monkey now...punk?

Gosh, I love stuff like this.

408 posted on 10/04/2002 1:22:25 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: philetus
Me: We have a proclaimed policy of attacking any country whose policies or regimes don't follow our dictates.

An overstatement on my part, as I have said a few times on this thread. We have a newly proclaimed policy of pre-emptive strikes against potential threats. I prefer deterence. You: Then why haven't we wiped out France? Good wine, beautiful women?

409 posted on 10/04/2002 1:22:52 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Redcloak
Most of the world has hated us for years. It's about time that they learned to fear us as well.

I think respect would do.

410 posted on 10/04/2002 1:24:46 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Surfin
"What has happened to our image as a beacon of freedom, opportunity and the right way to live?"

That's easy. Our morals have been gradually eroded by those who hate truth and seek moral relativism. We no longer have a moral base to extend to other countries. Our opportunities have been driven offshore by lords of greed.We the people have allowed this to happen through apathy.

Collective suicide of all that made the US great is the order of the day. Bread and Circuses, refusal of responsibility, greed and laziness have seduced the masses of useless eaters into complacency. We reap what we sow despite the subtle usurpation that we allow to undermine our base.

A voice of reason.

411 posted on 10/04/2002 1:26:27 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
This might help explain
412 posted on 10/04/2002 1:28:00 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I remind everyone,.. Name ONE Republican Ex-President who came out and spoke out against the policies of the Acting President and Commander in Chief when Clinton was President?? NO one did.... They understood how necessary it is for the exiting President to just fade away.. you can't have too many Indian Chiefs, it just doesn't work.

I think it would have been better if an Ex-President had come out against the criminal attack on Serbia the disgrace of a President Clinton undertook in support of Muslim terrorists to distract from his own problems.

413 posted on 10/04/2002 1:31:04 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
An "I can't wait to read this thread over the weekend" BUMP!
414 posted on 10/04/2002 1:32:19 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Stavka2
Oh, and what you mentioned about the Russian time line is true but it is not colonization but conquest of the Central Asian areas...colonization was of Siberia and for the most part present day northern Kazikstan.

Sorry. I was imprecise. As a descendent of the Conquistadors, I sometimes use the terms "colonization" and "conquest" interchangeably.

As you say, we all have a checkered history. :-)


415 posted on 10/04/2002 1:33:41 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Stavka2
Here Bright Light...allow me to edumicate you....go to Google, type in "america poverty pictures photos" and go surf the net from their. Not all things are that difficult if you had half a brain.

While doing such a search does turn up your liberal photo website ...NEVER does the story from Berkeley or the pic from Berkeley ever trun up in that search...So try again Ivan... you posted a pic from the most liberal website around, Berkeley from a story that is no longer accessable execpt to search the archives.... You said it was easily attainable to you... yet it did not show up in the search you did for your pics.....You must have had it booked marked for easy access.

416 posted on 10/04/2002 1:36:21 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: IronJack
First of all, there's nothing racist about anything I said. No "race" was even mentioned. Your reliance on that stale criticism says more about YOU than me.

I guess it was your talk about inferiors that made me arrive at that conclusion, perhaps I was wrong.

Secondly, I AM imperialistic. We have a right to be. As I've said repeatedly, our system works. Theirs doesn't.

Screw imperialism.

Finally, I'd rather embrace my "holier-than-thou" opinions than stand before this assembly and apologize for the success of our nation. I'd rather be a snob than a coward.

I'm pretty sure you can be a snob and a coward and still have 'holier than thou' opinions, if you choose to do so.

417 posted on 10/04/2002 1:40:19 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: verity
Exercising your 1st Amendment right to be an anal orifice?

You should stand up when you talk, otherwise your voice is too muffled.

418 posted on 10/04/2002 1:44:42 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Olydawg
I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on this. Why do you think we are bullies? Who have we bullied?

Serbia springs to mind.

Go Huskies!

419 posted on 10/04/2002 1:47:15 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
I disagree with this statement by you "I think it would have been better if an Ex-President had come out against the criminal attack on Serbia the disgrace of a President Clinton undertook in support of Muslim terrorists to distract from his own problems."

Though I almost bit my tongue in two during his Presidency,... I know that once our troops are committed, it can only serve to cause GREAT HARM to MORE OF OUR TROOPS if we undermine the role of a Commander in Chief.

EVEN with Clinton as President, there are people who would never obey an unlawful order. The Military has intelligence they gather, and base intervention/action and responses on. I don't doubt Clinton used it to "wag the dog", but it was probably suggested that such action take place WELL BEFORE HE USED IT. Or, he didn't use it the way he was advised to use it. In otherwords, he didn't go far enough. Because he is a coward.

Though we could not stand Clinton, we still stood united in supporting the decision of the "Commander in Chief". We still admired the fact, that despite political differences, the Republicans stood behind him too. Because to do otherwise, endangers our troops. IT doesn't matter if the President is Democrat or Republican. To suggest otherwise would be the epitomy of hypocrisy.

420 posted on 10/04/2002 1:51:06 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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