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NJSC Dems can replace Tori's on ballot - Pubbies appealing
Posted on 10/02/2002 2:57:31 PM PDT by Liz
Pubbies may try for stay in circuit court.
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To: comebacknewt
While I certainly hope and think Forrester can win, there's a bigger principle at stake. The rule of law and a country of free elections.
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:38:50 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: ambrose
I agree. Repubs should drop appeal (and a rich Repub should finance Libertarian appeal).
THen Forrester should immediately hammer on Lausenberg. Some ideas:
-Why didn't Lausenberg mention Iraq in his initial speech? Does he realize where this country is today? This isn't 1980.
-He should immediately "nicely" draw attention to Lausenberg's age.
-He should immediately demand a debate, and require that the Green party candidate be allowed (since the Dems' legal brief stressed electoral choice, why silence the greens?)
-He should trot out Lausenberg's quotes on why he left the Senate
-He should talk about being the "elected" not "selected" nominee.
More???
To: Liz
The DemocRATS are a corrupt and cunning adversary. This was planned from the get go. I believe they knew Torch was a liablity and that together with other races they were going to loose the slim control over the Senate and the GOP would again enjoy a slim majority.
The issue will now be a repeat of 2000 and their cry will be, once the Supremes over-rule the NJDemocRAT SC with a 5 to 4 decision, that not only was the presidency stolen in 2000 but the Senate in 2002.
Remember we are facing the party that created victimolgy.
They really are vermin. I liken the leadership of the DemocRAT party to that place normally only reserved in my disdain for the likes of Islamist Fundamentalists.
I can hear the RAT spinning heads already crying fowl about how the GOP stole NJ and the Senate. Fem all. I really do hope many of them ESAD.
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:39:29 PM PDT
by
ImpBill
To: Kozak
Well their venon just went out the door. They are using the courts to allow democrats to manipulate elections yet no other party has the same right.
They cheat, they misconstrue the law, they abuse the law and I think this should be stated every where all the time in each discussion. We don't have to let them get off the hook even though the legal system does.
The coming elections this must be the drumbeat - corruption and cheating - Democrats. They have just lost their credibility. They should not take this lightly.
I wish the Republicans would do the same in any election that they feel they will lose. If they want to play that way - make the field level.
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:40:23 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
To: eureka!
Thanks but I read the order ....they say nothing about counting the returned ballots....military/absentee....it looks like those votes are TOSSED!!!!!
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:40:49 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: ER_in_OC,CA
-He should immediately demand a debate, and require that the Green party candidate be allowed (since the Dems' legal brief stressed electoral choice, why silence the greens?) That tactic would be more likely to work if he also requires including the Libertarian and Conservative candidates. They're more likely to take Republican votes -- so it would look fairer -- but the Greens are likely to take considerably more votes in total from the Dems than the Libertarians and Conservatives take from the Republicans, so it would be a smart tactic.
To: aristeides
I don't think so. I don't think the SCOTUS will take this one.
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:41:47 PM PDT
by
justshe
To: xlib
Who did Torch defeat in the Dem primary? If we're going down this cockemamie road at all, shouldn't the #2 finisher in the primary get some consideration? Why does a committee get to pick, instead of the dem voters of NJ?GREAT POINT! When Miss Universe is found naked in Penthouse, the "Runner Up" gets it automatically, Donald Trump doesn't pick the new Miss Universe!
To: ClancyJ
Well, the next time I get a ticket in New Jersey for going 80 mph in a 70 mile an hour zone, my defense is going to be "my wife wanted me for dinner at home and we believe in the two-party family so the law should be liberally construed".
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:41:55 PM PDT
by
laconic
To: Political Junkie Too
This latest disgrace by the New Jersey Supreme Court is shameful! We really are looking more and more live a corrupt banana republic!
The Dems disenfranchise the Military once again!!!
THE NEW JERSEY SUPREME COURT "CLOWNS"
To: ClancyJ
The Republican Party in New Jersey need to select a race in which their candidate has no chance, and they need to have him withdraw TOMORROW, citing this ruling, and ask to substitute another candidate.
They need to keep doing this, one day after another.
It's HARD BALL time.
To: Liz
7-0. Pretty obvious the fix was already in before the Torch was forced out. Now we are looking at a replay of the presidential election if the US supreme court reverses this decision.
By the way, there is already a fully legal mechanism which exists for candidates who want to be voted in late in the game. Write in the name.
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:43:06 PM PDT
by
Jesse
To: Kozak
I fully agree. In fact the early newspaper headlines. "GOP to Appeal" seem to relish that fact.
Personally, I think Forrester should come out and say what a shame it is that the Dems had such a corrupt candidate that he had to quit. He should express concern over the military ballots and say he is going to watch closely to see that they are re-mailed IMMEDIATELY (his "watch" could be at least a 72 hour newscycle, if he makes it one).He should talk about changing the rules in the middle of the game, but not dwell on it. He should point out that before Torch quit the race, Lautenberg had already quit the Senate -- and he questions whether Lautenberg intends to serve out the term if elected.
On and on, Gop has lots of good issues here. Don't screw them up by going to SCOTUS where every report will emphasize that GOP is trying to "remove" lautenberg from the ballot. GOP, don't screw this up.
To: mewzilla
Plus the military ballot issue really worked for us last time, that is why I think we are going to Federal Court and SCOTUS to protect their rights to vote.
To: aristeides
Well, the Dems would *NEVER* allow a R/D/Grn only debate. But it will put the Dems and Lausenberg against "choice" so, it's bad PR.
Forrester's position would be "the top three candidates by poll numbers should be allowed to debate..." It would clearly be a ploy.
But seriously, Forrester should demand a debate to take place THIS FRIDAY. Lauseberg would decline, of course...and the goal is to keep Lauseberg on the defensive.
(note: The LAUSEberg misspelling is intentional)
To: weegee
"I seriously question how much longer our country will have peaceful transitions of power."Just wait for President Hillery and Atty General Schumer to get hold of the "Patriot Act" laws.
BLOAT, cache, and take names!
To: mware
Hi Martha
Listen hon ....want to go halves on a Lawyer with me???
I am serious!
Lets sue the State....come on!
You have been disenfranchised!!!!
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posted on
10/02/2002 3:44:34 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: Peach
Agreed.
What sweet justice though if we both expose them for the lawbreakers they are, and then defeat them at the ballot box as well!
To: Liz
Here's what we have to look forward to: Every election is now subject to being negotiated be elite lawyers and white-haired judicial mandarins sitting on corrupt backwater state supreme court benches. The second amendment becomes more important evey day....
To: mewzilla
Very well stated! This is a travesty!
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