Posted on 09/30/2002 4:47:16 PM PDT by rohry
Market WrapUp for the Week The Week in Graphs Storm Watch Geopolitical News Energy Resource Page Precious Metals Raw Materials Monday, September 30, 2002 Market WrapUp The Third Quarter End This recession and bear market has been unusual compared to times past. Instead of leading the economy into decline, housing has remained strong throughout the business downturn. This recession has been mainly a business-led recession and the consumer has acted remarkably different. Instead of cutting back on spending, building up savings and paring down debt, the consumer has done just the opposite by reacting to lower interest rates by raiding the equity of their homes to go on a borrowing and spending spree. Savings have been depleted and debt has expanded to record levels. It is not just the spending habits that have changed in this recession and bear market, but it is also the investment habits that are also different. Instead of bailing out of stocks after two negative years, investors have held on. I cant remember anything like this in my 23 years in the business. I met with a couple today that had a million dollar investment portfolio over four years ago. They are now down to around $250,000 if the equity of their rental is included. They went from tech and Internet stocks to junk bonds. They are now ready to say uncle. It is sad to see is how complacency has destroyed so many portfolios and retirement dreams. Even sadder is to think the worst is not over. This bear market will unfold in stages until stocks once again return to bargain values. It is going to take more downward bouts of selling before this bear market ends. When it does, stocks will be at bargain levels again, but nobody will want to own them. They will be chasing gold, silver, and other commodities as the bull market in raw materials will be entering its final phase as the stock market enters its final phase of a bear market. That has been the way things have worked out throughout much of history. When things become cheap, and I mean dirt-cheap, nobody wants to buy them. When assets become extremely expensive, everyone wants to own them. This next leg of the bear market should produce a few good bargains. We could end up getting another relief rally that will have legs as central banks and governments pull out all stops in an effort to avoid asset deflation. It will be a real opportunity to ride the wave of a temporary pause in a developing series of storms. When this rally arrives it will come at a time when stock prices have gone through several gut wrenching, puke-filled, nausea trying weeks of heavy selling. Your neighbor will be forsaking stocks, vowing never to own them again. That will be the time to buy, but very few people will want to. Only after a sustained rally will a few intrepid investors venture back into the markets. This rally may last 3 to 9 months, depending on what fiscal and monetary stimulus is applied. Yet in the end, the rally will be short-lived, and Government efforts will be overwhelmed by the markets. Markets will have their way and in the end, they always win despite efforts by governments to thwart them. After the next relief rallies, the final phase of the bear market will begin. Thats when stocks will sell at real bargain prices because nobody will want to own them. Most investors will be off chasing the bull market in real assets. But first we need to get through this next phase of the bear market. This next phase will need a catalyst to move investors out of their lethargy. I suspect as I always have that this catalyst will come from either the financial sector or some geo-political event. Weve already experienced a record $140 billion in corporate bond defaults as of last week. Things are getting desperate in Japan and in Latin America, and financial conditions are worsening for our money center banks, especially J.P. Morgan Chase. Todays graph of the Philadelphia Banking Index shows that financial stress is growing. And there is always the geo-political side. The Washington Post ran a story this weekend about two men in Turkey that were bound for Iraq with 34 pounds of uranium. Buried in the report was the fact that the uranium may have come from Russia. One can only assume the uranium wasnt for chemistry labs at Iraqi schools. As Jeff Nyquist and I have written, Saddam is a man hankering to do big things. The Bush Administration is attempting to stop him from realizing that goal. The Great Game in the Middle East is entering a new chapter as Russian troops invade the Pankisi Gorge in Georgia. There may be a quid pro quo between the US and Russia trading Iraq for Georgia. We will certainly know shortly. US troops are already in position to cross the Euphrates River as a prelude to invasion. American and British warplanes are stepping up their sorties over the no-fly zone in Iraq taking out radar and missile sites. Pre invasion plans are already in place waiting to be executed once the signal is given. Today in the Markets Signs of renewed economic weakness helped spur todays decline with the Chicago Purchasing Management Index falling back into recession. Companies are alerting Wall Street that the sales and profits arent going to be as expected. Wal-Mart warned the Street that its sales for September would be less than anticipated. Profit forecasts have been slashed again this week. Analysts now expect pro forma profits to rise only 7.3% this quarter, down from 17% in July and over 30% in January. Third-Quarter Declines
Funds: The 25 largest mutual funds This month is the end of the fiscal year for most mutual funds so you are going to see a lot of volatility as mutual funds take their losses and dress up their portfolios. Volume came in at 1.73 billion shares on the NYSE and by 1.64 billion on the Nasdaq. Volume has been a key indicator of this bear market. It was noticeably absent in all of the rallies this year, which gave the rallies no staying power. It has picked up during periods of decline giving them more strength. The advance/decline ratio continues to fall with more stocks reaching new record lows than those that are hitting new highs. Today was no different. Declining issues outdid advancing issues by 18 to 15 margin on the NYSE and by 19 to 15 on the Nasdaq. Overseas Markets Asian stocks fell as reports in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan indicated a slump in U.S. demand is slowing regional economies and reducing sales at Sony Corp., Samsung Electronics Co. and other exporters. Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average fell 1.5%, extending its decline in the past three months to 12%, the worst quarterly drop in a year. Treasury Markets © Copyright Jim Puplava, September 30, 2002 |
Why do you think that I'm for a long term stock market decline?
I don't know if you're FOR it, but you did say
I am surprised that ANYONE would believe that stocks are going to go up in the long term...
That certainly is a pretty strong implication that you think stocks WON'T go up, don't you think?
"Have you looked at a chart of the market from 1929 to 1949, or 1966 to 1992? The market does not always go up. Sideways is not a good thing, Down is not a good thing, either..."
Yep.
And in some detail, both large and small cap stocks, and including dividend returns, instead of just looking at prices.
The total return of a diversified portfolio isn't well represented by the DJIA.
And you will now this .. how?
You cant pick bottoms.And any given stock, in bull or bear market, has a chance of going up or down after you buy it. Better to buy what is undervalued and wait for it to become fuly valued.
You can't see why this bear market is different than past bear markets?
Man, I can.
Past bear markets weren't due to major accounting scandals and overhyped internet stocks. Sure, past bear markets did share the "bubble" factor (e.g. tech stocks and "growth" stocks), but there were many external factors such as Dust Bowl farming disasters, new tax increases (e.g. Smoot tariff), banning formerly legal industries (e.g. alcohol), excessive government spending on social programs (e.g. War on Poverty), and fighting wars (e.g. Vietnam, Iraq).
But in the other bear markets, we didn't have low inflation/low interest rates/low unemployment and high worker productivity (all of which are very positive economic fundamentals that make seperate stock market recoveries more feasable).
So if I'm right and this bear market is different, then consider that it may be MORE than just a bear market. In fact, it might be the readjustment of our stock markets away from "growth" stocks (i.e. companies that don't pay dividends but merely promise to "grow") to something more fundamental, such as dividend stocks that actually pay stockholders ca$h for buying and holding.
In addition, we are probably witnessing the beginning of a fairly major shift in corporate America away from mega-companies towards smaller, more efficient, leaner firms.
We do live in interesting times, but how many people can really spot a trend as it is happening (rather than in hindsight)...
There is a bubble deflating out there. It needs to be pricked. Just because I believe that the stock market is toast doesn't mean that I'm for the decline. It's just that I believe that the market is ready for a decline...
Well, you keep buying those undervalued stocks. Me, I'm going to sit on the sidelines and watch the action.
Richard W.
I do see a rally after a successful war, whether it's justified by economic fundamentals or not.
However, in the long run, after the market has returned to rationality, probably after that post-war rally I'm predicting, I think US stocks will appreciate. They will grow in proportion to the US economy, which I fully expect to continue to grow over the long term.
No doubt, since we have a huge deficit trade imbalance.
Given that there's not a lot of undervalued stocks out there, the sidelines sounds like a safe place.
Not necessarily. There used to be a time when stocks spun off dividends that were as reliable as bond interest, with an appreciation of a few percent a year.
If history repeats, then about 4-6 weeks into the war with Iraq the market will turn around as confidence
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