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CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER?NOT
n/a ^ | 9/29/02 | self

Posted on 09/29/2002 3:38:56 PM PDT by raysol

Uncle Sam Globalcop rides again.So much for avoiding foreign entanglements.I stand in opposition to the looming war with Iraq for more reasons than I will list here.I dont favor Saddam Hussein at all but neither do I buy Bush's rational for invading Iraq which is still a sovereign country & its NOT our place to dictate to its people who their leaders should be nor are we to go abroad in search of monsters to destroy as the founding fathers put it way back when.

The case hasnt been made to justify or warrant such a perilous course despite Bush's hollow claims & saber rattling which sounds more like a personal vendetta of his than legitimate national security concerns.To me its more likely to finish what his father started or over oil & both Bushes seem to want Saddams head on a platter just to settle old scores.

Going down this ominous path on such dubious grounds will only incite more antiAmerican sentiments & further destabilize an already volatile region especially if Israel(which doesnt see Iraq as an imminent threat)gets involved in it.If having weapons of mass destruction is the Bush standard for such aggressive action then why not go into China,N.Korea etc who do pose a credible & real threat to US?For US to pick on Iraq is like a heavyweight boxer bullying a lightweight.There is NO clear & present danger to US & if there is let Congress declare war as the Constitution mandates as We the People surely DONT need UN approval to defend our nation but Congress should not just rollover & rubber stamp the pending war resolution either.Let them hear from you now.May cooler & more prudent heads prevail to rein in the warmongerers before this comes back to bite & haunt US like 9/11.


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To: clintonh8r
This thread may call for popcorn.
21 posted on 09/29/2002 4:13:23 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: raysol
What gets me is this. Tony Blair was completely against military action against Iraq. A visit with Bush turned him around, against the will of his own people and party. WHY? What proof did Bush show him?

The reason I am for military action is that I believe the administration knows something more than they are telling us. I wish they would tell us, and I wonder why they can't/won't: is it to avoid panic or is it to protect the source?

I really don't think that "He tried to get mah Daddy!" would have been enough to turn Blair around, especially when you see the heat he is taking for his support back home. There is something to this that we don't know.

22 posted on 09/29/2002 4:14:06 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: sweetliberty
This thread may call for popcorn.

Well if he is going to start "arse reaming" I doubt you want to be eating anything.

23 posted on 09/29/2002 4:16:37 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
FU, Tejas. I don't see you volunteering for anything. Meanwhile, I'm in the process of moving over to a combat arms unit in the NG in my state, which means I have a pretty good chance of getting called up to active duty.

Call me a coward, huh, wannabe?

24 posted on 09/29/2002 4:17:01 PM PDT by SBeck
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To: SBeck
FU, Tejas. I don't see you volunteering for anything. Meanwhile, I'm in the process of moving over to a combat arms unit in the NG in my state, which means I have a pretty good chance of getting called up to active duty.

I hope to hell you get nowhere near real soldiers. They may get killed protecting you as you go into a fetal position.

25 posted on 09/29/2002 4:21:00 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: SBeck
Meanwhile, I'm in the process of moving over to a combat arms unit in the NG in my state, which means I have a pretty good chance of getting called up to active duty.

Why did you volunteer if you didn't want to serve?

You knew the risks, going in.

CIVILIANS run the military, civilians elected democratically.

I'd think as big as your swagger is around this place, you'd be chomping at the bit to get rid of this menace in Iraq.

26 posted on 09/29/2002 4:24:26 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Texasforever
Let explain something to you, I've spent the last 22 years of my life defending my country on active duty, in the Reserves, as a DoD civilian and contractor. If there's one thing I can't stand it's a wannabe, neo-Conservative, baby boomer a$$wipe who never served anything except himself. The only thing you're probably good for is whining as you look for someone to change your diaper. As far as I'm concerned you are nothing but a parasitic leech on this great country.

So you, that corrupt, Enron-infested, toxic waste dump of a state, and your entire life can go straight to where the sun don't shine.

27 posted on 09/29/2002 4:35:06 PM PDT by SBeck
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To: sinkspur; SBeck
I just read some of his posts in which he claims to have been on the "front lines" of the Cold War. He would appear to be a bit long in the tooth to be seriously considered for active duty.
28 posted on 09/29/2002 4:35:48 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: SBeck
"Call me a coward, huh, wannabe?"

Get off your high horse kid. There are posters on this forum that have seen the most gruesome battles of the last century.

29 posted on 09/29/2002 4:35:49 PM PDT by groanup
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To: SBeck
Let explain something to you, I've spent the last 22 years of my life defending my country on active duty, in the Reserves, as a DoD civilian and contractor.

Where were you during the Gulf War?

30 posted on 09/29/2002 4:37:35 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: SBeck
As someone who commanded a Marine rifle platoon and then XO'd a company in RVN for 13 months, I know a little bit about service. Given your venomous rants, you aren't fit to serve.
31 posted on 09/29/2002 4:38:19 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: SBeck
Let explain something to you, I've spent the last 22 years of my life defending my country on active duty, in the Reserves, as a DoD civilian and contractor.

Lived off the government alot I see.

32 posted on 09/29/2002 4:39:29 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever; Redleg Duke
What is it about civilians working for the DoD that makes them so nasty?
34 posted on 09/29/2002 4:47:48 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: SBeck
Hussein needs his butt kicked into paradise immediately...if not sooner.

Oh, and by the way--this fit 42 year-old would sign up in a minute if they would have me.

In fact, I have far larger stakes in this war than that...I have a 19 year old son, and who knows...we may still be fighting it when my youngest child turns 18...and he will be 8 in a couple of weeks.

I have no doubt that there are millions of American men of all ages who feel exactly as I do--and who would also sign up as they remember what the Islamists did to our fellow Americans.

EV
35 posted on 09/29/2002 4:48:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: sweetliberty
"This thread may call for popcorn."

I got some pop and made a sandwhich before I started on it. Seriously.

36 posted on 09/29/2002 4:50:37 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: SBeck
You're too unhinged to serve in the military.

You should be discharged. Seriously.

38 posted on 09/29/2002 4:53:43 PM PDT by sinkspur
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39 posted on 09/29/2002 4:54:22 PM PDT by ofMagog
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
What is it about civilians working for the DoD that makes them so nasty?

I am doubting their claims more and more each day.

40 posted on 09/29/2002 4:54:32 PM PDT by Texasforever
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