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Denver Police Department "spy file" describes Libertarian Party as a "militia" type organization.
Libertarian Party ^ | 9/24/02 | LP.org

Posted on 09/24/2002 2:09:34 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise

Colorado Libertarians amused and irritated at secret ‘spy file’ kept by Denver police

Colorado LP leaders say they are more amused than angry that a newly released Denver Police Department "spy file" describes the Libertarian Party as a "militia" type organization.

"A political party as a militia group? How ridiculous!" said John Berntson, State Chair of the Colorado LP. "Is this the quality of the law enforcement in Denver? Is Barney Fife running the shop?"

According to news reports, the Denver Police Department maintained files on approximately 3,200 Colorado citizens and 208 organizations from across the political spectrum.

The files, which were released to the public in early September, listed the Libertarian Party as a "Militia type organization, pro gun rights."

Former Colorado LP Publications Director Ari Armstrong said the analysis of the party as a militia-style group is flat out wrong.

"The Libertarian Party does not conduct or participate in military-style training," he noted. Instead, it runs candidates for public office, engages in political lobbying efforts, and "participates in peaceable demonstrations in support of individual rights.

"Why the Denver Police Department targeted for investigation the Libertarian Party for peaceably advocating the Bill of Rights remains a mystery," he said.

Overall, the revelation of a Libertarian Party police file was "not a surprise, but it's an outrage," said Armstrong. "Apparently, peaceably advocating the Bill of Rights warrants a police investigation."

The mischaracterization of the Libertarian Party's political nature does raise profound doubts about the intelligence of the Denver Police, said Berntson.

"The files themselves are laughable to the extent that they illustrate just how pathetically ill-informed the Denver P.D. is," he said. "They are also scary for the same reason.

"This is nothing more than government inefficiency and stupidity. This is Denver's tax dollars at their worst, and Denver's citizens should be appalled at their police."

The files became public knowledge this spring, and set off a firestorm of controversy throughout Colorado. Civil libertarians said the files were a worrisome invasion of privacy, similar to the surveillance files kept by former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.

In response, Denver Mayor Wellington E. Webb instructed the police department to destroy the files -- but only after giving copies to the individuals and organizations that had been monitored.

"It was very clear that something went wrong here," said Andrew Hudson, a spokesman for the mayor. "[Police] intelligence work is necessary, but has to be done right and in a way in which civil liberties aren't trampled."

Began in 1999, the spy files were in the form of a computer database. Records were kept on community activists, "social justice" organizations, and individuals who had attended political meetings and rallies.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the Denver Police Department over the files.

The release of the files began in early September. About 300 people and representative of about 70 groups crowded into police headquarters to review their files.

Walter Schlomer, the Colorado LP's fundraising director, picked up a copy of the Libertarian Party's file on September 5.

"It's an outrage," said Schlomer. "In spite of no record of violence or illegal activity of any kind, the Denver P.D. felt it neessary to secretly spy on the LP and keep track of our activities."

In addition to describing the Libertarian Party as a "Militia type organization," and noting it was "pro gun rights," the brief file gave the LP a "Law Enforcement" classification. Police did not explain what that meant.

The file also listed the Libertarian Party's "AKA Name" as the "Denver Metro Libertarian Party," which is a local affiliate of the state LP. In a section labeled "Person Associations," five listings were blacked out.

"There are words and lines blacked out by what looks to be a black marker," said Schlomer. "These represent names in the first two lines and I'm not sure what in the next lines."

Responding to criticism about the files, the Denver Police Department acknowledged that some groups were improperly characterized as "criminal extremists." A police spokesman said untrained clerks mistakenly shoehorned every organization into the few options available in the software's limited menu.

The spokesman also said the department will continue to maintain "intelligence files" only on people who are suspected or convicted of criminal activity, and will have an outside consultant review the files for appropriateness.


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To: Pahuanui
Judging by the way you shake hands, it's no wonder you don't know thing one about libertarianism.

I do have a rather firm handshake.
Limp-wristed handshakes give me the heebie-jeebies.

41 posted on 09/24/2002 5:27:36 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Cato
Considering this article, I am reminded om my post a few years ago. Yes I know the CAQ is a leftie rag. But the methods written about in the post have been and are being used
against the right. Read an weep. See link below.
Titled "Political Activists Beware, Big Brother is Watching"
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3950fd46219e.htm
42 posted on 09/24/2002 5:34:46 PM PDT by blackbag
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To: Kaisersrsic
Many of us here will be calling the Colorado Libertarians far worse they cost the Republicans control of the Senate.

Maybe if the Republicans were really for the Bill of Rights, instead of RINOs, the Republicans would have maintained control of the Senate.

43 posted on 09/24/2002 5:56:55 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: TC Rider
Just curious, did they have a file on the Colorado gun grabbers like the MMM?

Of course not. Even though there were two incidents of assault at gun rights protests, and both incidents were gun-grabbers assaulting gun-rights men, the Denver Police trained their cameras on the TRT, the LP and other gun-rights protestors. I'm sure they have my fat a** on videotape somewhere...

45 posted on 09/24/2002 6:42:40 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Cultural Jihad
Maybe the good people of Denver have seen the Salon Bolsheviki ideologues spout off with this sort of nonsense:

Go suck eggs, C.J. - I was there. I was videotaped at gun-rights protests in Denver, even though the only two criminal incidents at protests were gun-grabbers assaulting gun-rights protestors. And the TRT was into the protest scene big-time - they have a fife-and-drum corps and get people out on the streets in a big way to help protect 2nd Amendment Rights. Do you ever get out and protest, C.J.? Or are you content to stay behind your keyboard?

46 posted on 09/24/2002 6:45:47 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Rick Stanley is their candidate.
48 posted on 09/24/2002 7:07:43 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Lurker
Here's the kind of garbage Claire Wolfe writes: "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
49 posted on 09/24/2002 7:12:31 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Lurker
I fail to see any great difference which ideologue penned it. The advocacy of political murder, or the lauding of its advocacy, should not be tolerated, regardless of whether the name is Che or Claire.
50 posted on 09/24/2002 7:19:04 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Willie Green
lol
51 posted on 09/24/2002 7:22:54 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Cultural Jihad
Patrick Henry differed with you. So does Thomas Jefferson. I believe Thomas Paine did as well. John Adams felt differently as well.

Regards.

L

52 posted on 09/24/2002 7:54:10 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: Cultural Jihad
I fail to see any great difference which ideologue penned it. The advocacy of political murder, or the lauding of its advocacy, should not be tolerated, regardless of whether the name is Che or Claire.

Yeah, we can't let the facts get in the way of our opinions, eh?

53 posted on 09/24/2002 7:57:24 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Roscoe
Here's the kind of garbage Claire Wolfe writes: "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Yeah, and Cultural Jihad managed to mis-attribute that quote to Che instead of Claire. That's the entire point.

54 posted on 09/24/2002 7:59:18 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Well, "militia" is not a very good term, as it implies some degree of organization.

But it's a whole lot more polite than an accurate description of the Colorado LP would have been.

The Colorado LP is a group of clowns and nut-jobs.

For proof, look no further than their candidate for U.S. Senate: Rick Stanley, who is both clown and nut-job.

55 posted on 09/24/2002 8:04:35 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: BlessingInDisguise
""Is this the quality of the law enforcement in Denver? Is Barney Fife running the shop?" "

Um, no, Barney still has his boolet.

56 posted on 09/24/2002 8:13:53 PM PDT by Scruffy
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To: Roscoe
That quote has been around a while and I tend to agree. Need more of the "Contract with America" republicans.

signed,
Libertarian
57 posted on 09/24/2002 8:19:18 PM PDT by chnsmok
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To: chnsmok
That quote has been around a while

And it grows more loathsome every time it's repeated.

58 posted on 09/25/2002 12:16:25 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Isn't that the purpose of the second amendment? Is power resting in the hands of the people abhorrent to you?
59 posted on 09/25/2002 12:32:13 AM PDT by chnsmok
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To: chnsmok
Isn't that the purpose of the second amendment?

So that vile half-wits like Claire Wolfe can advocate murdering those she disagrees with? I think not.

"To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws."
-- John Adams

60 posted on 09/25/2002 12:35:43 AM PDT by Roscoe
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