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U.S. makes historic gestures to Taiwan that some worry may provoke China - US flag raised in Taipei
Associated Press | September 24, 2002 | WILLIAM FOREMAN

Posted on 09/23/2002 11:10:07 PM PDT by HAL9000

U.S. makes history with gestures to Taiwan that some worry might provoke the red dragon - China

TAIPEI, Taiwan, Sep 24, 2002 (AP WorldStream via COMTEX) -- Behind a tall security wall in a quiet courtyard, U.S. officials did something this month that they haven't done for 23 years at the main American office in Taiwan: raise the U.S. flag.

History was made again this week as a Taiwanese president's wife visited Washington for the first time in more than a half century.

Although the two events were largely symbolic, they thrilled many in Taiwan who saw them as examples of how Washington is giving this Asian democracy and global trading power the respect it deserves.

Now, they're hoping America will become even bolder and invite the Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian to the White House. It would be the first such visit since 1979 when the United States cut formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan, recognized rival China and began shunning official relations with the island. The U.S. embassy's name was changed to the unofficial-sounding American Institute in Taiwan.

Beijing insists that all its diplomatic allies break official ties with Taiwan because Chinese leaders consider the self-ruled island to be part of the communist mainland. The two sides split amid civil war in 1949.

Washington was so careful not to offend prickly China that U.S. officials removed Old Glory and even the flag pole in the embassy's courtyard in Taipei the day before America established formal ties with Communist China. The pole was finally reinstalled for the flag raising during a ceremony marking the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The recent series of symbolic gestures - which also included a rare visit to the Pentagon this month by Taiwan's vice defense minister - is worrying some China watchers.

Two Washington think tanks - the Atlantic Council of the United States and the Nixon Center - have warned in recent policy papers that the United States might needlessly antagonize China by indulging in symbolic gestures with Taiwan.

Taiwanese opposition lawmaker John Hsiao-yen Chang agrees the United States and Taiwan could be poking the big red dragon a bit too hard.

The legislator with the pro-unification Nationalist Party believes China is serious about its long-standing threat to attack Taiwan if the island seeks a permanent split. Such a conflict could quickly involve the United States, which has warned Beijing before that U.S. forces might protect the island.

Although China hasn't protested the first lady's trip, the flag raising and other recent gestures, Chang doubts they will be forgotten in China.

"Mainland China will put all these incremental moves toward independence on the table," Chang said. "One day in the future, they will probably settle the account."

But political scientist Lo Chih-cheng doesn't view the flag raising and the first lady's Washington trip to be provocative. He views them to be examples of how America is toning down its hypersensitivity to Beijing's protests. Lo thinks America should go further and hold ministerial talks about trade issues with Taiwan - the eighth-largest U.S. trading partner.

"We should normalize issues that aren't so sensitive," said Lo, executive director of the Institute for National Policy Research, a Taipei think tank close to the government.

But allowing the Taiwanese president to visit Washington might be too risky, said Ed Friedman, political science professor at the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

"An official visit by President Chen would spark a demand for military action against Taiwan and for a serious downgrading of relations with Washington," he said.

Friedman added that Taiwan should not overemphasize its relations with America at the expense of its relationship with other important countries, such as Japan, Australia and Southeast Asian nations.

"Moves should not be taken to alienate those parties in Asia," he said.

But the symbolic events and gestures could serve a useful purpose for U.S.-Taiwan relations, said Dan Lynch, a professor of international relations at the University of Southern California. The symbolic support could calm down pro-independence groups that have become increasingly vocal and provocative to China because they fear the world is ignoring Taiwan.

"I think the U.S. should do more to support Taiwan symbolically because it's a low-cost way to reassure the Taiwanese nationalists that the U.S. backs them up," Lynch said. "Secure in this knowledge, they should then face less incentive to behave provocatively."

Copyright 2002 Associated Press, All rights reserved



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; taiwan

1 posted on 09/23/2002 11:10:07 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
I love it!
2 posted on 09/23/2002 11:14:54 PM PDT by Southack
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To: HAL9000
What's the ChiComs gonna do? Say the US and Taiwan can't build factories and employ millions of Chinese people who'd otherwise be at the mercy of a bankrupt communist system?

Time to recognize Taiwan and end diplomatic fiction.

What's funny is Jiang Zemin is going to Crawford with a list of demands to President Bush about Taiwan.

Demands. They are delusional.

3 posted on 09/23/2002 11:19:27 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Southack
You and me both.
4 posted on 09/23/2002 11:19:50 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: tallhappy; HAL9000

5 posted on 09/23/2002 11:48:49 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: NormsRevenge; ninenot; flamefront; Sawdring; Enemy Of The State; Jeff Head; brat; dalereed; ...
bump!
6 posted on 09/24/2002 12:01:39 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Southack
Two Washington think tanks - the Atlantic Council of the United States and the Nixon Center - have warned in recent policy papers that the United States might needlessly antagonize China by indulging in symbolic gestures with Taiwan.

I wonder if either of these snooty institutions were as concerned when China threatened Taiwan every time Taiwan had an election?

8 posted on 09/24/2002 2:47:06 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Bump!
9 posted on 09/24/2002 4:38:42 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: piasa
The Atlantic Council is another front for transnational finance and corporate interests, the Nixon Center describes itself as " a non-partisan institution and operates as a substantively and programmatically independent division of The Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace Foundation. The Center is funded through a combination of corporate and individual donations in addition to foundation grants.

The Center Chairman is Maurice R. Greenberg who is also Chairman and CEO of American International Group. Former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger serves as the Center's Honorary Chairman while former Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger is Chairman of the Center Advisory Board. Dimitri K. Simes, an expert on U.S.-Russian relations and a foreign policy advisor to President Nixon, is the Center's President."

In other words another transnational corporate lobbying front. The bottom line is that security interest of the US and the existence of a non-communist Taiwan take a very weak second place to the potential for profit to be reaped by floating loans for multinational companies to build plants inChina and for the potential economic advantage those companies can garner from manufacturing goods in the low cost/high skill location. While capitalists always seek comparative advantage for their operations and financiers always look to where the greatest return can be gained the late 20th century has seen the emergence of a new style lobbying entity for providing complex rationales for such actions-the corporate funded think tank. There are now a substantial number of these bafflegab factories who employ batteries of academicians to lay down a barrage of ofuscatory blabber to mask the pure commercial interests which lay at the heart of the agenda being pushed by these supposedly nonpartisan public interest entities.

10 posted on 09/24/2002 6:38:36 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Thanks.

Certainly Nixon center is not non-partison.

You've provided info to make that perfectly clear -- although their ideas, analyses and policy reccommendations make it apparent.

11 posted on 09/24/2002 7:03:36 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: HAL9000
Ed Friedman, political science professor at the
University of Wisconsin in Madison.. ?

Any relation to Thomas of the NYTimes.
12 posted on 09/24/2002 9:34:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: HAL9000; Southack; tallhappy; maui_hawaii; ppaul; Tailgunner Joe; skull stomper; piasa; ...
Condoleezza Rice has written counseling firmness vis a vis China in Foreign Affairs.

Bush has moved to arm Taiwan in unprecedented fashion.

The U.S. is now providing weapons for Japan.

Bush labelled North Korea part of an axis of evil.

With Iran and Iraq, it geographically brackets China, the Anus of Evil.

But the tap dancers in the higher pay grades can dis a country without spelling it out.

traitorrapist42 took money from the PRC through Riady (John Huang anyone?), Johnny Chung and that Gen. Ji Shingde, Lt. Col. Watta Hoshewuz from ChinaAerospace, et al.

put-some-ice-on-it had Gen. Xiong Guangkai to the White House January 24-26, 2000 to reestablish military-to-military relationships.

Bill the Chancre also went all whipped-puppy when noodle-boy Yah Lin Trie gave him the Dear President letter in 1996.

But it will be a different barbecue down in Crawford.

Jiang will leave with his list of demands crumpled in his hand.

This ain't no disco--this ain't Nixon-Kissinger '72; this ain't Billy Peckerhead '79.

Taiwan is our friend.

Zhu Be-nice!

Comprende, amigo?

13 posted on 09/24/2002 4:09:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: HAL9000
Two Washington think tanks - the Atlantic Council of the United States and the Nixon Center - have warned in recent policy papers that the United States might needlessly antagonize China by indulging in symbolic gestures with Taiwan.

Remember that P-3 Orion ? Payback is a b*tch

14 posted on 09/24/2002 4:16:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: tallhappy
What's funny is Jiang Zemin is going to Crawford with a list of demands to President Bush about Taiwan.

Heh, cornering a Texan on his land and 'making demands' is a sure fire invite to a fight.

15 posted on 09/24/2002 4:17:12 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: HAL9000
This is EXCELLENT. A weekend after the Bush Doctrine is published, this!
16 posted on 09/24/2002 4:18:16 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: skull stomper
Dear PRC, go screw youself, you filthy communist murdering b@stards.

What you said. I'm sick of hearing that we have to ostracize Taiwan for wanting a free society, in order to appease the thugs, tyrants, and murderers in Beijing.

17 posted on 09/24/2002 4:22:45 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: tallhappy
Not really. They d*mn near hold title to half the Bush clan, as well as Kissinger and Associates, Feinstein and Company, etc.
18 posted on 10/01/2002 4:28:35 PM PDT by American Soldier
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