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Toogood/Gorman... parking lot beating Mom

Posted on 09/23/2002 4:02:27 PM PDT by Conservababe

Parking lot beating Mom is scheduled to be on Fox's Greta tonight.


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1 posted on 09/23/2002 4:02:27 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Conservobabe
Hopefully, Greta will just start smacking the s**t out of her...
2 posted on 09/23/2002 4:03:07 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Conservobabe
The parking lot probably deserved it.
3 posted on 09/23/2002 4:05:14 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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Being on television shown beating her daughter wasn't enough? Maybe she can get someone to write her story. And then there's the Lifetime miniseries.....

It's amazing how we make celebs out of uneducated, illiterate, and inarticulate people like Ms. Toogood.

4 posted on 09/23/2002 4:06:59 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Conservobabe
My theory in life is continually shown to be correct. NEVER trust a women with a hyphenated or multiple last name.

I submit Hillary Rodham Clinton as my supreme example.

5 posted on 09/23/2002 4:08:29 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: anniegetyourgun
For her story to be on Lifetime, her husband would have had to do the beating.

Every movie on Lifetime has the following basis... Husband beats wife, husband cheats on wife, husband beats wife, wife kills husband.

6 posted on 09/23/2002 4:09:27 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord
You're right. Just goes to show how much I watch that channel.....
7 posted on 09/23/2002 4:10:54 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Sir Gawain
Oh hush. LOL
8 posted on 09/23/2002 4:16:26 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Phantom Lord
 
My theory in life is continually shown to be correct.
NEVER trust a women with a hyphenated or multiple last name.

Ann-Margaret.

9 posted on 09/23/2002 4:17:12 PM PDT by gcruse
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I am hoping that Greta asks a lot of questions of her being an Irish Traveler.
10 posted on 09/23/2002 4:19:37 PM PDT by Conservababe
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Really torks me off criminals can go on TV shows and make a fortune out of their crimes.
11 posted on 09/23/2002 4:24:12 PM PDT by ofMagog
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To: Conservobabe
hehe
12 posted on 09/23/2002 4:25:56 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's amazing how we make celebs out of uneducated, illiterate, and inarticulate people like Ms. Toogood.

If you are saying that you want to eradicate the gypsy culture/lifestyle, then I may agree with you in theory, however, you would have a long, hard battle before you. You would probably have an easier time eradicating the Catholic Church. The gypsies have been aroud for millenia, and every nation on the face of the earth since then has tried to rid themselves of them. They are going to be around, lying, theiving, stealing and conning for longer than you or I will be on this planet.

So it looks like we will have to deal with them on an individual basis, and individually, I have not seen any hardcore evidence that a real beating took place in this instance. What exactly has the mother confessed to??

13 posted on 09/23/2002 4:26:13 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: ofMagog
Well, I, for one, would like to see the interview.
14 posted on 09/23/2002 4:26:32 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Poohbah
I'm going to make some fairly broad assumptions here, based on the information that she is a "Traveler." If my guess is correct, a Traveler is like a gypsy, and they make their living using various cons and thievery schemes. For instance, the "Williamson gang" is a group of people from the South who travel the country (They are probably Travelers also) pulling "home repair" cons where they knock on a door and tell people they have "surplus" material from a job site and are willing to repair a roof or driveway very cheaply. They get their money and leave. Then when the rains come, their "tar" or whatever they use washes away and the owner knows he has been conned. Another thing that happens is that the gang will use an excuse to get inside the house and will sometimes steal cash and jewelry. (Please bear with me because it is leading to a larger point.) The groups "traveling" don't keep the money for themselves, as the money is raised for the benefit of the group as a total. Which brings me to suspicions about Toogood. But what of the little girl? I don't know why she became angry at the girl, and again, I assume, that the girl had some small part to play and may have simply failed to perform that part or was too whiny at the time of the exchange and Toogood took it out on her. Also, if anyone feels sorry that Toogood has had the girl taken away by CPS - don't be! The little girl will be raised to commit acts of crime in support of the overall group. You can BET that other group members will fight to keep her because she is family, but a future monetary assets obtainer! Her only chance to grow up "normal" will be foster care - and yes - I realize that is a terrible choice for "normalcy."

If the Police Chief has any smarts, he will start running warrant and record checks on all "Travelers" who show up in support of Toogood, and he might find a bunch of them wanted on a variety of charges NATIONWIDE!

If Greta has any smarts, and I doubt that she does, she will miss the most important aspects of Toogood's lifestyle and will not understand the significance of her membership in the "Travelers." Disclaimer - As I said, I do not represent these as facts, they are only opinions, theories, and suppositions.

15 posted on 09/23/2002 4:30:01 PM PDT by Enterprise
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If I may run against the tide for a moment here. From my first view of this tape on tv, it was not clear that this woman mercilessly "beat" her child. It appeared that she slapped at the child in rapid downward motions and it was not evident how hard the child was struck. The fact that the child has been found to be "fine" by the prosecutor indicates she was not severely "beaten."

I have an 11 year old daughter who I would never hit and never did hit, and this mother may not be the most solid citizen. But I think this is a case of 35 seconds of video being used to demonize a person and take a child away to a "foster home." Sorry, but I find all the comments about people becoming ill and leaving the room over this video to be somewhat extreme. Now she has to "prove" to the government that she can be "trusted" with her own child. I think it's good to protect the child, but this is also another case of video lynching, IMHO.

16 posted on 09/23/2002 4:30:17 PM PDT by Williams
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I'm sure it went like this: "Yur honer, ah ain't got nothin' to be shamed of. It was a simple mistake and ah done took all the punishin' I shoulda had. I said I was sorry. It never happened before, I sweared to it."
17 posted on 09/23/2002 4:30:40 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Conservobabe
I have been hearing a lot about "Irish Travers" today on various talk radio shows. Anybody got any facts, web sites, etc, that gives any information on them?

Also, what is with mom's hair color change, from blonde in the child beating video to red in her, far to often and tearful, please forgive me, TV appearances today?
18 posted on 09/23/2002 4:33:22 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: Poohbah
Hopefully, Greta will just start smacking the s**t out of her...
Judging from her hard hitting questions to "talk-to-the-dead" psychic Jon Edwards the other night - I suppose she'll just turn the show over to Toogood for an instructive class in how to beat your children.

Honestly, she turned her show into "Crossing Over" and allowed Edwards to do his act on callers for the entire program - she never once challenged his phoney-baloney "psychic abilities".

19 posted on 09/23/2002 4:33:29 PM PDT by Drumbo
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To: Enterprise
Forgive me, but is there any information that she is an "Irish Tracveler" as opposed to a petty shoplifter? This is what I mean, people see a video and have now decided they know all about the deep criminal conspiracy of which this woman is a part. If there is solid info on this, that is interesting and I apologise. Otherwise, I have to liken this to the folks who had figured out exactly where the three alligator alley moslems were going to board a submarine to be secreted back to an overseas Al Queda base. This is EXACTLY why we have the presumption of innocence and burden of proof. I wonder how many wonderful people out there are alraedy willing to stone this kid's mother?
20 posted on 09/23/2002 4:38:35 PM PDT by Williams
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