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Mother in Beating Surrenders

Posted on 09/21/2002 2:46:55 PM PDT by GnuHere

Showed up in an SUV in Indiana.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse
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To: fabriclady
Now, I don't know what log you crawled out of, hopefully you will slither back.

Sorry about your prejudices, I just know how the CPS Gestapo works. If you study their methods and results, you will be outraged at them much more than a mother that hits her kid. The damage they do is much more profound and long lasting.

Know before you criticize.

21 posted on 09/21/2002 3:27:05 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: Mike4Freedom
Maybe those of us who know how CPS works should organize a boycott of Kohl's to teach them to mind their own business.

Gimme a break! Everyone in the country has seen that horrendous beating and everyone (with the exception of you) thinks that the child is in serious danger. Whatever issues you have with CPS should not detract from Kohl's acting as good citizens.

22 posted on 09/21/2002 3:29:37 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Mike4Freedom

My remarks stand as stated.
23 posted on 09/21/2002 3:36:08 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: Mike4Freedom
Currently the Libertarian candidate for the 17th house seat covering part of Lenexa and Shawnee.

Your campaign should include your support of this mother's rights. Your not gonna win anyway, you might as well get a little attention. No doubt, by supporting this shrew you will receive attention.

24 posted on 09/21/2002 3:37:55 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Whatever issues you have with CPS should not detract from Kohl's acting as good citizens.

They thought they were doing good, just like that lady in the Shonee's in Georgia but they and she did not know what they were starting. All good citizens better learn that making a report to CPS is like lighting a fuse to a bomb that you will not be able to stop.

They are maniacs who never heard the phrase "due process".

25 posted on 09/21/2002 3:38:41 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: Mike4Freedom
So you're saying that just because CPS may step over the bounds on occasion, then just get rid of it and let kids fend for themselves. EVERY CPS case is phony to you, NO kids are being injured...........hmmmmmmmmm...

If that's what being Libertarian means, no thanks.

26 posted on 09/21/2002 3:40:40 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Mike4Freedom
There's a monster living under your bed, whispering in your head.
27 posted on 09/21/2002 3:41:48 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: KingKongCobra
LOL!
28 posted on 09/21/2002 3:42:27 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Mike4Freedom
GRANTED THE CHILD SERVICES NEEDS SOME WORK BUT FACE THE FACTS,THAT MOM NEEDS TO BE EXTERMINATED.
29 posted on 09/21/2002 3:44:10 PM PDT by shotspider
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To: EggsAckley
Hey now, hey now.
30 posted on 09/21/2002 3:44:13 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: RGSpincich
The platform of the Kansas Libertarian Party includes an effort to get CPS under control. We want no kid taken from its parent without full due process including a jury trial.

You fellows are just not thinking this through very well. Let us see how you will feel if your kids or grandkids are taken by CPS for frivilous reasons and you go broke fighting to get the kids back from a system that holds all the cards.

Do not let the details of a single case warp your standards of right and wrong.

31 posted on 09/21/2002 3:44:36 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: Mike4Freedom
They are maniacs...

As a child, did you ever take a blow to the head with some adult's clenched fist?

32 posted on 09/21/2002 3:45:33 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: GnuHere
the woman dressed in the red tank top is not the woman who was on the tape.....this one is shorter and fater with darker hair
33 posted on 09/21/2002 3:47:45 PM PDT by The Wizard
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To: EggsAckley
In hiding long enough for the bruises to go away. This thing is sick.

Here's my take on it - the "defense" is going to be that Mom was swatting at two dogs (unseen in the car from that angle, of course) who were nipping at her precious little girl. You see, "mom" was actually being a hero, not a villain....don't you see that?

Brief to be filed by attorney "Rocket" Rosen

34 posted on 09/21/2002 3:47:57 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Mike4Freedom
I have to say that I don't really know what transpired in that parking lot just from looking at a video tape. The mother may or may not be a child abuser. However, I have to agree with you on many levels.

If you believe that the government, state, federal, or otherwise, has the power to remove child from natural parent, then anything else you claim to believe as an supposed individualistic, non-intrusive government "conservative" is meaningless. If this mother is guilty of aggravated assault, then arrest her and charge her with aggravated assault. If she is convicted, then she should go to prison, and the child goes into the sole custody of the father or next of kin, aka closest living relative. If the mom is found not guilty, then she is not guilty, and she goes home with her daughter. At NO TIME should a child be in the custody of a government agency. Government has not been delegated that authority by the people.

35 posted on 09/21/2002 3:48:43 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: EggsAckley
that just because CPS may step over the bounds on occasion

The concept of the rule of law is that rules that apply for every legal action (due process) prevent overstepping the bounds. Even one case of overstepping the bounds demonstrates that the rules are not truly in place and all cases are in doubt. That means-how do I know anyone is guilty when there are no standards for guilt.

Until due process is firmly in place, they are a lawless and rogue agency to be avoided at all costs.

36 posted on 09/21/2002 3:49:49 PM PDT by Mike4Freedom
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To: ErnBatavia
"Rocket" Rosen

Saw him on the news the other night. He spent at least two or three minutes "explaining" his name. What an ambulance chaser!

37 posted on 09/21/2002 3:49:58 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Mike4Freedom
Live in your utopian la-la world if you chose, just don't thrust thrust it upon me. You Libertarians seem to want nothing other than to deconstruct our government, and then hope it can just run itself. Well, it can't. And do you know why? Because there are too many self-serving, stupid people who think their opinions are the right way. All you would accomplish is chaos.

If it's broken, then set about the task of fixing it, not just sitting around and complaining that it's broken.

38 posted on 09/21/2002 3:56:05 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley
"Rocket" Rosen

The quote from his appearance that made me want to hurl: "These things happen."

...ambulance chaser

Yes, I was wondering how he possibly became involved in this case. I have a feeling he has defended members of this clan before. And he knows they can easily pay his fee. It's free money to him.

39 posted on 09/21/2002 3:56:13 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: Mike4Freedom
Know before you criticize.

The sister was arrested for failing to report child abuse.
You, on the other hand, want a boycott of Kohl's for
reporting child abuse.  Do you see anything wrong
with your statement yet?

40 posted on 09/21/2002 3:58:08 PM PDT by gcruse
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