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Which means that the only way to improve your situation is to institute Vermont Carry, either by law or by amending the state Constitution to remove the offending clause. The latter would be the best bet. However many states have near identical language in their state Constitution, without the anti concealed carry language, and they STILL don't permit carry, concealed or otherwise.
They did not rule on the constitutionality of the bill, which was Baca's argument, but on the 'opt-out' provision, which is un-constitutional.
Teacher317 - No relation. Former Mayor(love saying that) Jim Baca has vowed to fight any CCW law that is signed in. Of course, he was dead last in a group of 5 candidates running for mayor.
It's simple you are allowed to conceal your gun if you have a police issued permit, but can only conceal it in your own home. If you don't have the conceal permit you must keep it in plain view at all times, but only if you get police permission to to buy one. It's the American way.
-CJ
Years ago, I lived in Connecticut, applied for and got a license. At that time (and possibly still today, don't know) they required that you carry concealed. Reason is that showing or "flashing" your handgun is considered "disturbing the peace" and is grounds for revokation of your license. So you could carry it concealed (and into bars was just fine) but you had to keep it concealed.
Exactly! =^)
I was in New Mexico in June, I carried concealed, I knew I was legal in the car but I didn't know the penalty for carrying on your person was so minor.
Hasn't happened yet in states where it's legal.
Schools? Their kids are in the schools. They don't want guns there.
Can you cite any cases of a CCW holder shooting up a school? Saying no CCW holders in schools is just as idiotic as saying no police officers in schools (since they have guns). And police officers HAVE shot kids in schools.
I think the NRA trying to get bills passed to carry in bars and schools is hurting, not helping.
How is it "hurting" to attempt to get the government to recognize our Rights?
No CCW in bars is a pain-in-the-rear because many states define "bars" as any place that serves alcohol. So unless you want to eat at Burger World, you're SOL. Other states define bars as the portion of a restaurant dedicated primarily to alcohol. So if a CCW holder is eating dinner at a steakhouse, and crosses the bar area to go to the restroom, he/she is in violation of the law in some states. That's insane.
As for schools, barring people from carrying there is silly, since the criminals simply ignore these laws. Many states even ban carrying on school property, so if you're in the car to pick up the kids, you're breaking their "law". That's also insane. (Also, it was under the "protecting the schools" argument that Klinton enacted his 'no guns within 1000' of a school' law) So it's nothing more than a ruse to take away our Rights.
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