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Saddam is warned: We'd nuke Baghdad
The Online Sun ^ | 09/19/02 | Trevor Kavanagh

Posted on 09/19/2002 8:46:50 AM PDT by Heartlander2

Saddam is warned: We'd nuke Baghdad

By TREVOR KAVANAGH

AMERICA will NUKE Baghdad if Saddam Hussein dares unleash weapons of mass destruction, it emerged last night.

The chilling warning to Iraq was revealed by former Tory Premier John Major, who led Britain in the 1991 Gulf War.

During that conflict, allied forces were armed with “battlefield” nuclear weapons and prepared to use them in a counter attack, he said.

Saddam was privately warned his capital would be obliterated if he used weapons of mass destruction against allied troops or Middle East targets — including Israel.

And senior security sources last night confirmed Saddam has been warned AGAIN of the consequences if he breaks the ban on using terror weapons.

Mr Major wrote of the Gulf War: “In private, Saddam Hussein received an unmistakable warning about the immediate and catastrophic consequences for Iraq of any such attack on civilians.

“I knew that if he did use these diabolical weapons we would have to escalate our response to bring the war to a speedy and conclusive end before too many of our troops were exposed to them.” Mr Major yesterday supported renewed action but raised questions about the way a cornered Saddam might lash out.

He said: “On this occasion we will specifically be going to war in order to replace the Iraqi regime. Saddam will be gone.

“He will be dead, he will be in prison, or he will be in exile. Would he try to create maximum chaos? Would he seek to use weapons of mass destruction?

“Would he use them on oil fields in the Middle East to create economic chaos? Would he pass them to terrorist groups, would he — perhaps the worst nightmare of all — try to use them on an adjacent capital?

“We can largely protect against that, do not press me on how, we can protect against that.”

Saddam targeted Jerusalem with 39 Scud missiles in 1991 — killing two and injuring hundreds — in an attempt to drag Israel into the fighting.

He had chemical and biological warheads too but chose not to use them in the face of America’s warning.

Yesterday Israeli forces moved Patriot missile launchers — which take out incoming rockets — into position in case Saddam targets them again.

Pressure was building on Iraq as a British ex-UN official warned that sending in weapons inspectors is a “no-win” move because Saddam would hide his arsenal.

Tim Trevan, an expert on biological weapons, said: “I don’t think sending in weapons inspectors is a good idea, but it may be a necessary thing to do because of the political situation.

“We know he had anthrax and botulinum toxin and we know he had nerve gases.

“We never found all his equipment and he’s had four years to build new production facilities underground. The job of finding them would be nigh on impossible.”


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1 posted on 09/19/2002 8:46:50 AM PDT by Heartlander2
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To: Heartlander2
Saddam is warned: We'd nuke Baghdad

Sounds good to me. Lets take out the Saudis with neutrons while we're at it.

2 posted on 09/19/2002 8:51:01 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus
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To: Heartlander2
Do you think this really matters to Saddam? I think that he thinks that if he can't lead, he no longer has a purpose and might as well go out in style, so to speak.
3 posted on 09/19/2002 8:53:19 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: Heartlander2

4 posted on 09/19/2002 8:54:06 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Heartlander2
I thought I heard Powell say that the US decision in Gulf War I was to respond to any WMD attack by destroying nearby dams and putting Bagdad under three feet of water?
5 posted on 09/19/2002 8:54:30 AM PDT by Frozen Dead Guy
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To: Heartlander2
BUMP!
6 posted on 09/19/2002 8:56:43 AM PDT by adam stevens
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To: Frozen Dead Guy
Are you trying to be funny or sarcastic? Seriously - I'll bet that Powell had the crap kicked out of him by bullies when he was young, and to this day, can't stand up to them. He is a total wuss.
7 posted on 09/19/2002 9:00:38 AM PDT by M. Peach
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To: Frozen Dead Guy; Poohbah
Powell may have said that.

But I don't recall him ruling out the use of nukes to take out the dams...
8 posted on 09/19/2002 9:00:39 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: Frozen Dead Guy
I did hear James Baker say that he did tell the Iraqi's this in a meetng preceding the start of the Gulf War. Then he was asked if he thought we would really resort to that. He sort of chuckled and said he didn't really know if that would be the response. Which, I think was an error. He should have held the line and said "Abslutely"-even if the answer was "I don't know"

My question is-would Saddam ultimately gain if we did "nuke" Baghdad? Ofcourse, the rest of the world would be up in arms. And we would be the only country to ever use nuclear weapons-twice. (Not saying I don't think that should be our response-just predicting world opinion)

9 posted on 09/19/2002 9:01:56 AM PDT by riri
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To: Heartlander2
So a guy walks into a bar and sees President Bush and Colin Powell talking.
He walks up and says, "What are you guys talking about?"
President Bush says, "We're planning to start a war and we are going to kill several million Iraqis and one blond with big breasts."
"Why kill the blonde with big breasts?" the guy asks.

President Bush turns to Powell and says, "See, Colin! I told you no one would care about killing several million Iraqis!" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10 posted on 09/19/2002 9:07:45 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: riri
Hopefully, hotter heads will prevail.
11 posted on 09/19/2002 9:08:35 AM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: riri
Russia would be pee o'd and go after us. You know...Magog and all.
12 posted on 09/19/2002 9:10:57 AM PDT by smith288
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To: Heartlander2
Baghdad remembered a thousand years from now only as a glowing crater in the middle of a desert, which slowly fills and becomes a radioactive lake, as the Tigris and Euphrates rivers drain into and fill the basin. What a legacy.
13 posted on 09/19/2002 9:14:52 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
BTW it was Powell who encouraged Bush-1 to destroy our neutron bomb. Then Bubba gave the tech to the Chi-Coms. If GW goes in with the force we have I'll guarantee you Syria, Iran etc will become the most humble countries. If not end up like Iraq?
14 posted on 09/19/2002 9:15:41 AM PDT by Digger
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To: M. Peach
I've never heard him say it in public but here's the quote from "My American Journey" beginning on p490 of the paperback version (mine at least)...

"On the day the deadline was to run out, I started drafting a warning to Saddam. It read:

Only conventional weapons will be used in strict accordance with the Geneva Convention and commonly accepted rules of warfare. If you, however, use chemical or biological wapons in violation of treaty obligations we will:

destroy your merchant fleet
destroy your road infrastucture
destroy your port facilities
destroy your highway system
destroy your oil facilities
destroy your airline infrastructure

I saved the worst for last, and it was a bluff intended only to strike fear in him, an action that our lawyers would veto. I wrote, we would destroy the dams on the Tigris and Euphrates rivers and flood Baghdad, with horrendous consequences. I started circulating the message through channels, but time ran out before it could be cleared. Its meaning, however, was not lost on our side. We would fight a conventional war, unless Saddam drove us to other means, which would be swift and crushing.

As far as bombing biological arsenals and the attendant risk of unleashing rather than preventing a catastrophe, I told Sir David Craig, "If it heads south, just blame me."


15 posted on 09/19/2002 9:24:52 AM PDT by mitchbert
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To: Frozen Dead Guy
Then, would they name it the DEAD Sea II?
16 posted on 09/19/2002 9:25:20 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Heartlander2
Saddam was privately warned his capital would be obliterated if he used weapons of mass destruction

Just Baghdad? Great, now if Saddam has any designs on using WMD, we now know exactly where he won't be when they're unleashed. We should have at least a few nuke warheads designated for Baghdad and one each for the 10 or so next largest cities in Iraq.

17 posted on 09/19/2002 9:28:05 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Sounds good to me. Lets take out the Saudis with neutrons while we're at it.

And then what? Iran? Peru? Mexico?

You warmongers seem to think as the World's Last Remaining Superpower we are invincible, indomitable, infallible, and therefore any actions we take for democracy, women's rights or the other liberal buzzwords of the moment are justified, just because.

Making war on other nations is a grave undertaking, pardon the pun. You can expect an aggressor nation to be denounced by the rest of the civilized world at the very minimum, possibly attacked as we attacked Iraq in 1991.

The War on Terrorism cannot be won by alienating people we need to fight in it, or by striking out against targets who we "think" may pose a threat some time in the future.

But that thinking seems to fit pretty well with current policy, doesn't it? Get them before they get us?

Prepare to hunker down.

18 posted on 09/19/2002 9:28:43 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: alloysteel
Baghdad remembered a thousand years from now only as a glowing crater in the middle of a desert

Perhaps we should call it Mesopotamia National Park.

19 posted on 09/19/2002 9:30:15 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin; PhiKapMom
FYI, Interesting tidbit, IMO

The chilling warning to Iraq was revealed by former Tory Premier John Major, who led Britain in the 1991 Gulf War.

During that conflict, allied forces were armed with “battlefield” nuclear weapons and prepared to use them in a counter attack, he said.

Saddam was privately warned his capital would be obliterated if he used weapons of mass destruction against allied troops or Middle East targets — including Israel.

And senior security sources last night confirmed Saddam has been warned AGAIN of the consequences if he breaks the ban on using terror weapons.


20 posted on 09/19/2002 9:30:59 AM PDT by deport
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