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1 posted on 09/18/2002 5:33:54 AM PDT by BenF
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2 posted on 09/18/2002 5:34:34 AM PDT by BenF
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To: BenF
We forget that the Muslims have painted themselves into a corner. They have told themselves that their God will provide victory. If they don't achieve victory then their God is false.
5 posted on 09/18/2002 5:50:38 AM PDT by js1138
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To: BenF
America, who they call "The Great Satan" that defeated them.

I'm beginning to think they like to repeat that phrase ("America is the Great Satan") because they love getting to sneak the phrase "Great Satan" into their conversations.

Do they think Satan is Great, or something?

6 posted on 09/18/2002 5:51:38 AM PDT by syriacus
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To: BenF
I believe this to be true. Anyone who feels the need to contradict is welcome to try. However I warn you that you are apt to make yourself look the fool.


8 posted on 09/18/2002 5:55:43 AM PDT by sinclair
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To: BenF; Torie
Winston Churchill once intoned: "The Hun is either at your throat or at your feet." So too are radical Muslims, dedicated to a world dominated by Islam, (who) will not stop until they are utterly defeated .

Makes sense to me.

11 posted on 09/18/2002 6:36:04 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: BenF
Israel was time and again forbidden the fruits of victory to secure her sovereignty.

Preservation of the state is victory. I don't know what the author thinks an Israeli "victory" would look like. An occupation of Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Iran etc.? Imposition at gunpoint of a demand for reparations from those governments that would never be paid? Enlargement of Israel's borders so that a larger fraction of Israel's population is Palestinian? I think the difficulty of achieving final "victory" is what has been working against Israel, not US pressure.

12 posted on 09/18/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: BenF
The Arab nations continue to whine

The Arab Islamics are good at this.

13 posted on 09/18/2002 6:58:51 AM PDT by Lent
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To: BenF
"Therefore, America had best be prepared to defend against malicious and nefarious Terror attacks of yet unknown magnitude."

Likewise, the Islamic world had better become prepared for the reaction of the American citizens to any such attack: Instant and summary execution of all Muslims within the country. Even the police and military would help.

14 posted on 09/18/2002 7:13:08 AM PDT by 11B3
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GREAT article!
23 posted on 09/18/2002 8:39:27 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: knighthawk
BTTT
24 posted on 09/18/2002 8:39:51 AM PDT by spodefly
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To: BenF
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27 posted on 09/18/2002 8:45:10 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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I always enjoyed Immanuel Winston. Always interesting to read him. Nice post.
29 posted on 09/18/2002 9:07:09 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: BenF
Not only did the Americans not assist Israel in 1948 but America, along with Europe, embargoed arms shipments to Israel. [Emphasis added.]

Flatly not true.

Ben Gurion et al. ran away with the mandate and proclaimed the Israeli state as an explicitly Jewish state, and the leadership of the American Jewish Congress was in Harry Truman's office like a shot, to demand that Truman recognize Israel over and against the advice of the State Department. They proceeded to remind Harry of the very tight race he was facing, and basically told him that if he wanted another term as president, he'd either do what they wanted, or all the Jewish political money in America would be going to back Tom Dewey. That got around at the time (I think Margaret Truman was the source of the story) and made some people unhappy with the bareknuckle politics of it, but the AJC got what they wanted.

As for the people at State being supposed "Arabists" and sneaky anti-Semites, a) one wonders how they could be both pro-Arab and anti-Semitic, and b) I'm from the South, and I've never had any friends up there at State, either -- so what? The State Department has always been a WASP club, and they've always been snotty about letting other people in their treehouse. I can't remember the last Irish Secretary of State, can you?

The article, in summation, is a bit of a drone, full of self-righteous sorrow for oneself that doesn't help carry any of the essential points the writer wanted to make.

As for the arms embargo, the new Israeli state managed to get enough practical help to arm and field a force sufficient to defeat the Arabs, and there were an awful lot of contributions from American Jewry and other Americans that reached Israel, official arms embargo or no official arms embargo (on both sides? or just on the Israelis? -- the author doesn't say).

31 posted on 09/18/2002 9:22:59 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: BenF
All the Terrorists in the last 10 years at least have been Arab Muslims.

Exagerration does a just cause no good, especially when a compelling case can be made without it. "Arab Muslims" are by no means the only terrorists, or sources of terrorism, within the last tens years. Non-Arab Muslims also have a role. The mullahtocracy of the Persian nation, Iran, probably edges out the Arab state, Syria, as the number one terrorist supporting government. Among non-Muslims we have narco-terrorists in Columbia and elsewhere, and extreme left groups like the Red Brigades still operating, and killing people, in Europe. Although it has yet to become deadly, eco-terrorism has caused significant property damage in the American West.

35 posted on 09/18/2002 9:38:58 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: BenF
There are lies, and there are damned lies.
Islam is built on the latter.
47 posted on 09/18/2002 2:55:56 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: BenF; knighthawk
Bump for a great ping (and some rather heated discussion!).
49 posted on 09/18/2002 3:09:22 PM PDT by facedown
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To: BenF
FOR FILES
51 posted on 09/18/2002 3:54:06 PM PDT by Quix
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To: BenF
Bump for later read.
53 posted on 09/18/2002 6:09:41 PM PDT by EternalHope
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Emanuel A. Winston--great piece of writing--hits the nail on the head.

54 posted on 09/18/2002 7:47:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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