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Bin Laden dead, says comrade ( 15 Sep 02 )
heraldsun ^ | 15sep02 | Leo Schlink

Posted on 09/14/2002 4:06:10 PM PDT by Ranger

OSAMA bin Laden's supporters say the al-Qaeda leader is dead.

Shahid Ayan, who was hiding in Afghanistan's Tora Bora mountains with bin Laden during United States air raids in December, said the terrorist chief died 10 months ago.

"Yes, Osama bin Laden is dead, but the jihad will continue until Judgment Day," he told United Arab Emirates newspaper Al Bayan.

Shahid said that late on December 10 – "the 24th night of Ramadan" – there were "some scary explosions" in the area where bin Laden's cave was located.

"The cave was completely erased from the ground and became nothing," he said.

"This was the only cave of the 15 that was destroyed by an enormous 52ft (16m) missile and there is no doubt that bin Laden died."

Shahid said bin Laden had taken refuge in the caves on November 15 with about 320 fighters.

US forces bombarded the area with laser-guided bombs and AGM-142s – television-guided missiles with earth-shattering warheads.

Pakistani intelligence sources last placed bin Laden in a 25-vehicle convoy travelling from Jalalabad in Afghanistan to Tora Bora in November.

Bin Laden then appeared on a video released in December, when he appeared ill and had trouble using his left arm – prompting speculation he had been wounded in the bombing.

Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai, the subject of a recent al-Qaeda assassination attempt, was yesterday quoted as saying he believed bin Laden was dead.

"The more we do not hear or him or see any signal of his whereabouts or survival, (the more) we are likely to believe he is not alive," Mr Karzai said.

But US intelligence officers are sceptical of the reports, which were also carried on al-Jazeera television, which bin Laden frequently uses to address his followers.

The station yesterday carried a statement from Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar who pledged Islamic rule would return to Afghanistan.

"America won't enjoy Afghanistan or find comfort in it until it leaves ashamed," he said. "We reassure Muslims everywhere that we are abiding by the pledge and that victory is coming."


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To: Ranger
"Yes, Osama bin Laden is dead, but the jihad will continue until Judgment Day," he told United Arab Emirates newspaper Al Bayan

Send us your address, we can arrange that for you straight-away.

21 posted on 09/14/2002 6:48:06 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: VOA
Cool story.
22 posted on 09/14/2002 7:43:37 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: VOA
It is a great story. I wonder why it's not getting the national attention it deserves. All I ever read from the press is that we created Bin Laden, we created Saddam, we..........Here's a lady that came from Viet Nam during the war, to the United States, and may have created the bomb that killed Bin Laden, ridding the world of scum. What, no national story? Didn't we create her?
23 posted on 09/14/2002 9:37:36 PM PDT by Higgymonster
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To: prisoner6
Another newsperson and I debated over whether such a massive blast would have only been used if we were pretty sure OBL was there.

I've always held out hope that that was when we got him, too. It's also nice to see that there were 320 fighters in the cave with him (if he was really there). In that one explosion, we may have taken out a whole bunch of his best fighters and top lieutenants.

My question is when Shahid says the cave was completely erased and "became nothing," I wonder if he just means the cave completely collapsed or the bomb blew the whole side of the mountain out, leaving nothing but a smoldering pit of ash, or what? If the former, I'd sure like us to get some heavy equipment up there and pull every boulder out of that hole so we could recover all the surviving teeth and bone fragments for DNA analysis. Make it a big archaeological expedition.

24 posted on 09/15/2002 1:26:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel

2002 Ping


25 posted on 11/04/2004 11:28:17 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

"I'm not dead yet!"

...but something happened between then and now for him to be so low-profile, and only appear recently sans AK.


26 posted on 11/04/2004 12:00:30 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Ranger
the only cave of the 15 that was destroyed by an enormous 52ft (16m) missile

Diameter?

27 posted on 11/04/2004 12:02:55 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Dog Gone
"This was the only cave of the 15 that was destroyed by an enormous 52ft (16m) missile and there is no doubt that bin Laden died."

They had a little arab guy standing at the entrance to the cave with a measuring tape. At the missle flew by, he measured it, then jumped out of the cave before it exploded so he could tell the world exactly how long the missle was!

/sarcasm>

28 posted on 11/04/2004 12:03:09 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I was totally convinced he was dead. He's not even mostly dead.


29 posted on 11/04/2004 12:04:38 PM PST by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: Dog Gone

What about this recent video?


30 posted on 11/04/2004 12:05:23 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Deb

Maybe they found their own Miracle Max to cure him.


31 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:01 PM PST by HungarianGypsy (Envision getting off your hippie butt and getting a job.)
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To: Salvation

Yeah, that pretty much demolishes what I said on this thread two years ago.


32 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Salvation

Remember, Walter Cronkite said that the video was
a "Karl Rove" produced piece.


33 posted on 11/04/2004 12:07:48 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: Ranger

I thought in the most recent Osama video released by "Al jizz" last week, he spoke of recent events. Am I mistaken?


34 posted on 11/04/2004 12:08:12 PM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: Muzzle_em

No you're not. What you're posting on is a two-year-old thread resurrected. Check the posting dates on the first couple of posts.


35 posted on 11/04/2004 12:10:42 PM PST by Optimus Prime (Do liberals even qualify as sentient beings?)
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To: Ranger

If this is true, did you notice that Al-Qaeda said this after the election so they would not help Bush? This makes sense and believe it is true.


36 posted on 11/04/2004 12:12:56 PM PST by truthandlife (http://www.neverforgetneveragain.com -- If you want Bush re-elected pass on this video link!!!!)
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To: Brad C.
"I think anybody would discount htis report"..."not as protrayed here"

Yea, I did not have to read more then a few lines to see this as a really bogus story.

"The cave was completely erased from the ground and became nothing,"
"This was the only cave of the 15 that was destroyed by an enormous 52ft (16m) missile " (did he get out his tape measure before it hit?) Give me a break.

Well, I still think it is likeley that he is dead, but this story smells.
37 posted on 11/04/2004 12:17:45 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Optimus Prime

I read a thread that says that President Kennedy has been assasinated.

What about that film I saw of him and Richard Nixon debating?

What about that, huh?!?!?! Yeah - I thought so!

:-p~~~

(You mean I need to look at the DATES on postings before I resurrect something? Why?)


38 posted on 11/04/2004 12:21:01 PM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: ctdonath2; Deb

if we had OBL, then he would have been President Bush's October Surprise.

With 8 billion muslims willing to hide him, there is no way to guess where he is.

Why he was in China, India, Iran and Pakistan last week alone.....

LOL


39 posted on 11/04/2004 3:39:52 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: Muzzle_em

your not mistaken. Note the date of the original post is over 2 years old! I don't know why this is being recirculated. Beats me as its obviously wrong.


40 posted on 11/04/2004 3:49:36 PM PST by Ranger
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