Man in terror scare says woman is lying

CNN ^ | 9-13-02 | Kelli Arena, Kelly Wallace, Susan Candiotti, Mark Potter and Terry Frieden

[bootless]

NAPLES, Florida (CNN) --The Georgia woman who prompted Friday's terror scare was "flat-out lying" when she told authorities she overheard three Muslim men at a restaurant laughing about September 11 and making suspicious comments, one of the men said late Friday.

[sweetliberty]

"Why would these guys plot in English?"

Well, this has been hashed out on other threads, but I think the most likely explanation is that they do not share another language in common. Also, 2 of them are naturalized citizens. Isn't it just possible that they don't KNOW another language? I heard one of them speak. He doesn't even have an accent.

[usmcobra]

She doesn't have to,all she has to do is let them sue her and the police will roll tape of them admitting they hoaxed her.

[CharacterCounts]

According to the first reports, the police had trouble getting them to stop.

After all of the things that have been misreported about this whole event, I don't have much faith in the first reports.

[VaBthang4]

[usmcobra]

From CNN's article

"At the time of their release, authorities called the incident a prank by the men, but officials were backing off that theory a few hours later.

"I think it's premature at this point in time to call it a prank or a hoax," said Carlos Alvarez, the director of the Miami-Dade Police Department."

That my friends is typical liberal misdirection.
This man was not on the scene, not involved in the investigation, and other then the robot used by Metro Dade's Bomb squad, Miami Dade had nothing to do with this incident.

In short CNN found a talking head to say what they wanted said. Those that were involved are not talking to the press for the simple reason They may be called in a civil suit. Instead we have talking heads filling the feeds for CNN and others saying what they believe or what they think should be believed.

[mrustow]

THIS IS HOT:

Go here: "Young Muslims in pursuit of Allahs pleasure"

Look at the names on the Board of Directors.

Board of Directors (Shura):
Ahmer Ali
Al-Mahmud Ali
Junaid Mirza
Moeed Ahmed
Omer Choudhary
.

This whole thing either smells of a setup, or the lady is right and they are involved.

There are millions of Choudharies on the old subcontinent, and thousands in most English-speaking countries.

[sweetliberty]

"You're todays lucky winner of the coveted FR Sheeple award"

LOL!

[joyful1]

Their attitude remains inconsistent with their story. Totally inconsistent. They are not believeable.

In the jury of public opinion, their account of what happened is not believable.

[Cindy]

Sweet Liberty, in post #506 you said, "Think and say what you want. I have seen several documentary type shows over the past few years in which cops have said they do this to achieve their objective. I'm not making a judgement, just citing an observation. If you are calling me a liar, then it is you who is making an ignorant and biased statement."

Now listen here Sweet Liberty, basing your opinion on "several documentary type shows over the past few years" is NOT the same as basing your opinion on facts and stats. That's a fact. If you notice in my original statement I never used the word "liar." I stand by my original statement to you: "That is the most ignorant and biased statement I have seen here on FR in quite some time."

[Salvation]

Let them all take lie detector tests. The woman is telling the truth.

[wardaddy]

Nice find!

[wardaddy]

Amen!....these "unwelcome here(s)" are damn lucky (if truly innocent) that they didn't use this ruse with some serious homeboys. They could very well be quite dead.

[dread78645]

It's amazing how the "facts" in this matter keep changing.

Indeed.

Mrs. Stone sez "blue". Police say "green". The suspects claim "yellow".
The Media has smeared it all together for "gray-brown".

Until some verifiable "facts" come out, I lean towards the "blue/green"; but it's not final.

[BohDaThone]

BOY! Is this a whole case a good example of the difficulty in figuring out real facts when you have a complete media Cluster-F***. That's why, in the end, we have fact-finders who can get to the primary witnesses before we make conclusions in a court of law. On the other hand, LE has to make do with what they are told, in the first instance. So, let's try to sort out what we think we know.

And remember, much of what we hear on the media in the first hours goes from some one who observed something (maybe) to a supervisor to a PR spokesperson who whispers to the local stringer, who sends it to the network news gatherer who give it to a writer who gives it to Rather Brokejaw, which is what we hear. Even with the best will in the world, it's not surprising if errors creep (or gallop) in.

SO. Here's my take and questions so far.
1. Back in Georgia. What did the men say, and what did Eunice hear. Frankly, I dunno. She could be dead on. They could have been serious, or joking. It could be like Emily Litella ("I didn't say Croatian Terrorists, I said Crustacean Terrine"). If she thought she heard something, she was right to report it, and let LE sort it out. [MORE IN NEXT POST]

[sweetliberty]

I said cops lie based on what I have heard cops say. If you think that is a biased and ignorant statement, so be it. I didn't make it. It only proves my point. Cops lie.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Lawton Hospital FL, (check spelling) told the three, DON'T COME HERE!. FOX news reporting. Sorry if this has already been reported....

[Wingsofgold]

One's I've known think it's an honor ta lie, cheat and steal. Way it's done and way of life to them.

[BohDaThone]

[POST CONTINUED]

2. Key point. Did the men admit to having been "joking." Some reports say yes. Who said so? When and how did they talk to them? Was this from a particular policeman who was there? This report came in and then faded? What's the source and the chain of reporting?

3. Were police tracking them all the way down to Florida? Why did it take so long if they were suspicious? Were they waiting at that toll booth, and they just happened to blow by it?

4. What happened at the toll booth. What is the original source of the account that they blew by it? One car, or both. First paid for second or v-v.? I haven't a clue. Especially, how far from the booth was the arrest? Did the attendant call the cops, or were the cops lurking?

5. The plates. Did someone tell the cops they were bad? Who back in Illinois? What's the final story on how bad they were. I've heard everything from no problem at all to no problem that was the fault of the men or that they should have been aware of to some problem, though minor, that was their fault. What's the truth? [POST CONTINUED]

[justshe]

Thanks for the ping!

VEDY VEDY interesting!