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Conspiracy Theorists: WHAT DID HAPPEN TO FLIGHT 93?
The UK Mirror ^ | Thursday, 12 September 2002 | Richard Wallace

Posted on 09/12/2002 6:30:13 PM PDT by SlickWillard

WHAT DID HAPPEN TO FLIGHT 93?
RICHARD WALLACE, US Editor, examines riddle of hijacked jet as he visits crash site

THE unmarked military-style jet swooped down at high speed through the valley, twice circled the smouldering black scar where Flight 93 had careered into the ground just seconds earlier and then hurtled off over the horizon.

GRIEF: Victims' relatives visit a makeshift memorial at crash site

At least six eyewitnesses saw the mysterious aircraft on the morning of September 11 last year. But the US authorities deny it ever existed.

So when George Bush laid a wreath yesterday at the crash site in a remote valley outside Shanksville, Pennsylvania, he was one of only a handful of people who know what really happened to the 40 innocents and four hijackers aboard the doomed United Airlines Boeing 757-200.

Those unimaginable final seconds as passengers showed courageous defiance apparently wrestling for control of the aircraft have become one of the defining images of the tragedy.

And "Let's roll" - ringleader Todd Beamer's no-nonsense call to arms - became a defining battle cry in America's war on terror.

But of the four aircraft taken on September 11, the exact fate of Flight 93 after its two-hour journey is proving difficult for US officials to explain.

What was the white jet doing there and why won't they admit to its presence? Why did other witnesses see smoke and flames trailing from Flight 93 as it fell from the sky, indicating a possible explosion aboard?

Or - and this is proving to be the most uncomfortable question of all - in the moments before the airliner piled into the black, spongey earth at 575mph did an American fighter pilot have to do the unthinkable and shoot down a US civil airliner?

Susan Mcelwain, 51, who lives two miles from the site, knows what she saw - the white plane rocketed directly over her head.

"It came right over me, I reckon just 40 or 50ft above my mini-van," she recalled. "It was so low I ducked instinctively. It was travelling real fast, but hardly made any sound.

"Then it disappeared behind some trees. A few seconds later I heard this great explosion and saw this fireball rise up over the trees, so I figured the jet had crashed. The ground really shook. So I dialled 911 and told them what happened.

"I'd heard nothing about the other attacks and it was only when I got home and saw the TV that I realised it wasn't the white jet, but Flight 93.

Ididn't think much more about it until the authorities started to say there had been no other plane. The plane I saw was heading right to the point where Flight 93 crashed and must have been there at the very moment it came down.

"There's no way I imagined this plane - it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look.

"It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven't found one like it on the internet. It definitely wasn't one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.

"Then they changed their story and tried to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000ft up.

"But I saw it and it was there before the crash and it was 40ft above my head. They did not want my story - nobody here did."

Mrs Mcelwain, who looks after special needs children, is further convinced the whole truth has yet to come out because of a phone call she had within hours from the wife of an air force friend of the family.

"She said her husband had called her that morning and said 'I can't talk, but we've just shot a plane down,' " Susan said. "I presumed they meant Flight 93. I have no doubt those brave people on board tried to do something, but I don't believe what happened on the plane brought it down.

"If they shot it down, or something else happened, everyone, especially the victims' families, have a right to know."

Lee Purbaugh, 32, was the only person to see the last seconds of Flight 93 as it came down on former strip-mining land at precisely 10.06am - and he also saw the white jet.

He was working at the Rollock Inc. scrapyard on a ridge overlooking the point of impact, less than half a mile away. "I heard this real loud noise coming over my head," he told the Daily Mirror. "I looked up and it was Flight 93, barely 50ft above me. It was coming down in a 45 degree and rocking from side to side. Then the nose suddenly dipped and it just crashed into the ground. There was this big fireball and then a huge cloud of smoke."

But did he see another plane? "Yes, there was another plane," Lee said. "I didn't get a good look but it was white and it circled the area about twice and then it flew off over the horizon."

Tom Spinelli, 28, was working at India Lake Marina, a mile and a half away. "I saw the white plane," he said.

"It was flying around all over the place like it was looking for something. I saw it before and after the crash."

India Lake also contributes to the view there was an explosion on board before the Newark-San Francisco flight came down. Debris rained down on the lake - a curious feat if, as the US government insists, there was no mid-air explosion and the plane was intact until it hit the ground.

"It was mainly mail, bits of in-flight magazine and scraps of seat cloth," Tom said. "The authorities say it was blown here by the wind." But there was only a 10mph breeze and you were a mile and a half away? Tom raised his eyebrows, rolled his eyes and said: "Yeah, that's what they reckon."

Light debris was also found eight miles away in New Baltimore. A section of engine weighing a ton was located 2,000 yards - over a mile -from the crash site. Theorists point out a Sidewinder heat-seeking missile attacks the hottest part of aircraft - the engine.

The authorities say the impact bounced it there. But the few pieces of surviving fuselage, local coroner Wallace Miller told us, were "no bigger than a carrier bag".

Nearly all the passengers were reduced to charcoal on impact and the largest piece of human tissue found was a section of spine eight inches long.

CURIOUSLY, military officials insist there was never any pursuit of Flight 93, although they were informed that it was a suspected hijack at 9.16am, 50 minutes before the plane came down.

At 9.35am they assumed it was heading for Washington DC after it changed course in a 180 degree turn and three F-16s - top speed 1,800mph - now patrolling over the capital were told to "protect the White House at all costs".

An anonymous flight controller said on the day that an F-16 was "in hot pursuit" of Flight 93 - Washington to Shanksville is seven to 10 minutes flying time.

A few minutes before the crash Bill Wright, piloting a single-engine Piper, could see Flight 93 three miles away, but was suddenly told to turn away and land immediately without explanation.

At 9.58am a 911 call - the last mobile phone contact from Flight 93 - was made from one of the airliner's toilets by passenger Edward Felt.

Glenn Cramer, the emergency supervisor who answered it, said on the day: "He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down.

"He did hear some sort of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, but he didn't know where. And then we lost contact with him." Glenn Cramer has now been gagged by the FBI.

Also, according to sources, the last seconds of the cockpit voice recorder are the loud sounds of wind, hinting at a possible hole somewhere in the fuselage. What caused the smoke and explosion? Why the wind sounds?

The FBI's later explanation for the white jet was that a passing civilian Fairchild Falcon 20 jet was asked to descend from 34,000ft to 5,000ft some minutes after the crash to give co-ordinates for the site. The plane and pilot have never been produced or identified. Susan Mcelwain says a Falcon 20 was not the plane she saw.

FURTHER verification that some kind of military aircraft was operating in the area is scientifically irrefutable.

At 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by supersonic flight - was picked up by an earthquake monitoring station in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles from Shanksville.

That Todd Beamer and others launched an assault on the hijackers there is no doubt. The brief extracts released from audio tapes indicate a fierce struggle going on at the cockpit door.

But nobody - official or otherwise - has categorically said the group got into the cockpit or that their actions led to the crash. Those final, agonising moments are mere presumption.

President Bush and his team have the whole story. So why aren't they telling the rest of us?

UA93: THE EVIDENCE

THE WITNESSES

At least SIX witnesses, including Susan Mcelwain saw a small military type plane flying around shortly BEFORE UA93 crashed. The FBI denies its existence

THE DEBRIS

The US Government insists the plane exploded on impact yet a one-ton section of the engine was found over a mile away and other light debris was found scattered over eight miles away

THE MOBILE CALL

Passenger Edward Felt made an emergency call from the plane. He spoke of an explosion and seeing some white smoke. The superviser who took the call has been gagged by the FBI

THE F-16s

UA93 was identified as a hijack at 9.16am. At 9.35am three F-16s were ordered to "protect the White House at all costs" when it turned towards the capital. At 10.06am it crashed at Shanksville, less than 10mins flying time from Washington

THE BLACK BOXS

Sources claim the last thing heard on the cockpit voice recorder is the sound of wind - suggesting the plane had been holed

THE SONIC BOOM

The FBI insists there was no military plane in the area but at 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by a supersonic jet - was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Pennsylvania
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To: fone
This is true. I was glued to the news reports because my daughter was in the building next to the Pentagon and all the reports said the plane was shot down....
61 posted on 09/12/2002 9:03:22 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: Lunatic Fringe
CNN ? LMFAO
62 posted on 09/12/2002 9:06:37 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: chemainus
Reports also said a car bomb had gone off in front of the State Department and that the 757 that hit the Pentagon was a twin engined prop plane. Do you believe those too?
63 posted on 09/12/2002 9:08:34 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Lunatic Fringe
you don't have to see a smoke streak...that means little
64 posted on 09/12/2002 9:08:44 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: John H K
Your attitude just pisses me off...several times today
65 posted on 09/12/2002 9:10:24 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Pictures can be altered
66 posted on 09/12/2002 9:14:58 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: thegreatbeast
again , an intelligent person....a supersonic plane IS seen first and heard later...and distances can be deceiving...50 feet or 500 feet to an amateur...and gray in sunlight at high speed often looks white
67 posted on 09/12/2002 9:15:05 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: chemainus
A supersonic aircraft at 50ft would have blown her eardrums out, and at 500ft would have shattered windows for miles. Did either of those things happen?
68 posted on 09/12/2002 9:17:53 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: SlickWillard
I figure a worm caused the sonic boom and a ton of engine skipped and bounced for over a mile to get away from the crash site while a contrary wind flipped the debris back 8 miles over lake and all.
The passenger caller really heard only a hiccup onboard and the FBI knows there was no white plane so they injected/projected something about a Fairchild Falcon 20 just for their own amusement.
That allows anyone to believe everything they want!
69 posted on 09/12/2002 9:19:09 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: sinkspur
"Thanks for the picture. It seals, once and for all, the fact that the Flight 93 was not shot down."-sinkspur........The Gospel according to sinkspur? why thank you Your Majesty...this dogmatic attitude , whether you are right or wrong, so prevalent among the cognoscenti here on FR, abrogates any legitimacy of thought and action here....FR has about the same reputation for logical and thoughtful believability as Scott Ritter... and this is a shame because I have read posts from some very very smart , logical and seasoned people on this site
70 posted on 09/12/2002 9:19:21 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: Lunatic Fringe
You would only have a smoke streak if there was fire burning incompletely...High explosives, directed charge can do damage without the Hollywood visual effects
71 posted on 09/12/2002 9:25:10 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: chemainus
Better tell that to the witnesses reported in this article who insist flight 93 was trailing fire and smoke.
72 posted on 09/12/2002 9:28:47 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
That's funny, I have property in Southwest Virginia and the fighters routinely use a valley there to line up for training /bombing runs...I have never had a window broken and I assure you my eardrums are still there....let the discussion continue without out of hand dismissal please
73 posted on 09/12/2002 9:30:58 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: John H K
"It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven't found one like it on the internet. It definitely wasn't one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.

They've given it a paint job, but I've FOUND it!

Looks like International Rescue didn't make it in time.

74 posted on 09/12/2002 9:32:01 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Rokke
I believe witnesses see and hear different things but there is a root cause..in this case a plane slammed into the Pentagon...who cares if it is a prop or a slow( because of the turn)moving jet...and by the way, your changing the topic is called derailing...it automatically loses
75 posted on 09/12/2002 9:33:27 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: Lunatic Fringe
That picture is not conclusion that flight 93 wasn't shot down.The article quotes a man working a half mile away from the impact as saying "there was a 10 mph breeze blowing".
Any wisp of white smoke or fuel vapor trailing the disabled craft would surely have been dissipated by a breeze that strong 30 seconds after impact.
76 posted on 09/12/2002 9:35:18 PM PDT by Minutemen
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To: Oztrich Boy
Is that a REAL plane ??
77 posted on 09/12/2002 9:36:19 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: chemainus
Because the fighters flying over your property in Southwest Virginia are not flying supersonic. You are arguing that the aircraft that flew over the lady's head was initially silent because it was supersonic. If it was, she'd now be deaf.
78 posted on 09/12/2002 9:36:52 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
I'm tired of the circular arguing...I have had subsonic planes right over me and I swear I blocked out the noise and focused on something like a missile configuration I had never seen before, the pilot, new markings ...a lot of things.... there were official reports that the plane was regretfully shot down ....there was an INORDINATELY LONG period of time before the details of the heroism were "discovered" . The details leaked out in typical government lie fashion, a snippet at a time to see what played well in Peoria. Does the government Lie ? All the time. And that , my countryman, is far far far more dangerous than terrorism; it is terrorism itself and a Brave New World. If you don't admit that, we have absolutely no common ground, and that's OK too.
79 posted on 09/12/2002 9:43:09 PM PDT by chemainus
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To: SlickWillard
Article is BS. The flight was NOT shot down, as the sane here have noted.

"10.06am it crashed at Shanksville, less than 10mins flying time from Washington""

Uh - Shanksville is about 140 miles from DC - that is MORE than 10 minute flight time from Washington, even at 575 mph.

"THE BLACK BOXS
Sources claim the last thing heard on the cockpit voice recorder is the sound of wind - suggesting the plane had been holed"

What "sources"? This is made up.

"THE SONIC BOOM
The FBI insists there was no military plane in the area but at 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by a supersonic jet - was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville."

Where to start with this one? A sonic boom at 9:22am would mean nothing - the flight crashed 40 minutes later! Why would jets be in the area a FULL FORTY MINUTES before they were to shoot Flight 93 down there? Also - I have never heard of said "earthquake monitor" - and I doubt they would even detect sonic booms. But even if they do - it does not matter because one does not exist for Shansville.

I live in the closest media market to Shanksville, and the local media did a lot of coverage interviewing the townsfolk that SAW IT GO DOWN. And no one has said anything about a missile or it being shot down. But I guess all the good people of Shanksville, the same town where the miners were trapped, were in on it. Maybe the mine rescue was devised by the CIA/NSA to divert attention from the true story (shoot-down) of Flight 93. Yeah, maybe those 9 miners were gonna tell the truth and had to be dealt with. Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.

Uh oh, time to replace my tin-foil, I can feel the radio waves attacking my hair follicles.
80 posted on 09/12/2002 9:46:45 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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