Conspiracy Theorists: WHAT DID HAPPEN TO FLIGHT 93?

The UK Mirror ^ | Thursday, 12 September 2002 | Richard Wallace

[fone]

Noted. I've said it before and I'll say it again:

" I'm just not sure anymore. It is best to leave one for the heroes of that fateful day."

[HardStarboard]

>>> If an F-16 flew that close over your head the noise would practically knock you down. <<

I've been underneath a Blue Angel at full boggie that routinely flew 50 to 100' over my house during the Seattle Seafair shows. It mad a small pine tree that was below the level of my head in my neighbors yard shake from the sound. The best I can describe the sound was like the sound of a sheet being ripped amplified about 100,000 times. It physically hurt your heavy organs!

An F-16 probably wasn't what she "didn't" hear, if it was anything at all!!

[steve-b]

Just look at the Mirror's story--they cite as one piece of evidence the scrambling of F-16s from the DC area around 9:50 and the Mirror suggests they flew toward Shanksville, then another piece of "evidence" is a sonic boom near Shanksville at 9:20, well before even the Mirror says any F-16s were in the area.

If they can silently fly 50 feet above the ground, a little thing like traveling back in time should be no problem.

[thegreatbeast]

Sorry, I was unclear perhaps. I was talking about the smoke rising on the horizon which was purportedly Flight 93.

[steve-b]

To the best of my knowledge, no interviewer has ever asked Bush [or Cheney], "Mr. President [or Mr. Vice President], can you say conclusively, and unequivocally, that no branch of the United States military, to include the United States Air Force, but not limited thereto, was involved in the downing of United Airlines Flight 93, on the morning of September 11, 2001?"

Because there simply isn't enough credible reason to suspect any such thing. It would be like asking Dubya if he's been getting hummers from the interns like the SinkEmperor.

I suppose some adolescent (of whatever age) might ask him the question, and when he denied it announce that he'd been caught in a lie if any military personnel happened to be among the passengers who brought down Flight 93.

[StolarStorm]

Do you have any credentials in the Aviation industry to back up your assertions?

[steve-b]

I'm real tired of government deceit though.

So are we all, which is all the more reason not to discredit legitimate questions about government conduct by allowing them to become entangled with this tinfoil-hat nonsense.

[steve-b]

There is nowhere near enough smoke for that amount of fuel.

Smoke is a product of incomplete combustion. A really roaring fire wouldn't produce much more smoke (it might even produce less) than a small one.

[Slyfox]

Very interesting article. A lot happened that day. If there were fighter pilots in the area, and I tend to think that was a possiblity, they probably saw Flight 93 disappear into the ground. What an incredible visual to have to be straddled with.

[mikegi]

He was working at the Rollock Inc. scrapyard on a ridge overlooking the point of impact, less than half a mile away. "I heard this real loud noise coming over my head," he told the Daily Mirror. "I looked up and it was Flight 93, barely 50ft above me. It was coming down in a 45 degree and rocking from side to side. Then the nose suddenly dipped and it just crashed into the ground. There was this big fireball and then a huge cloud of smoke."

Uhhh, I don't think so. If Flt93 was "50ft" above him and coming down at a 45deg angle, it would have crashed 50ft away from him. Plus, he sure did witness a lot of maneuvering in less than four seconds ("rocking" and nose dip).

[Lunatic Fringe]

Do you have any credentials in the Aviation industry to back up your assertions?

Umm, if that plane was shot down, you would see a streak of smoke all the way down to the crash site- that picture shows a perfectly clear sky except for the ball of smoke rising from the ground.

One does not need an aviation background to know that a damaged plane trails smoke, and certainly one that was shot down with a missing engine would leave some type of smoke trail.

It is my belief that the passengers struggled in the cockpit, and in the end forced the plane into the ground.

[Lunatic Fringe]

[Oztrich Boy]

Given the "not an executive jet" claim, here's a better candidate. Although i don't believe the story either, just like posting pics of obscure aircraft (and still think the Skyfox conversion of the T-33 made a lot of sense)

Boeing Skyfox

[Tennessee_Bob]

The description sounds like an F-14 or F-15 except for the color.

And the sound, and the "...had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side."

Two rear engines sounds like pods, and the big fin on the back sounds like a T-tail of some sort - two upright fins sound like winglets.

[StolarStorm]

Ever heard of an EMP weapon? Point, click, and you turn off electronics. Scrambled electronics don't cause smoke, but they do cause a crash in this type of aircraft.

[hove]

"Why even give credibilty to this twaddle?

The answer to your question is simple. It might have happened that way. Why on earth would it be hard to believe that the government, knowing what was happening and knowing that the White House might be the next target, would do anything to bring that plane down? The bigger question is, why don't they have the decency....and the honor to tell the truth? The answer is that it would not be politically prudent to do so. And if this scenario is true....then this is the greatest danger facing America.

[Jonathan]

I have heard first hand from 2 contacts at Toledo Express Airport that one of the F-16's from there shot the jet down with cannon fire.

Oh - and I also heard them fly from the ANG base their, over my house on 9/11/01, on their way to PA. And they were not going slow.

[Aaron_A]

Its pretty hard to mistake pods usually found on fighters with engines....not to mention most pods would either be on the wing tips, under the wings or on the centerline pylons.

[jwh_Denver]

"What's the next conspiracy theory? A F16 bombed the Pentagon on 9.11?"

That's on old Arab conspiracy that a F16 did just that.