Posted on 09/11/2002 3:37:18 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
Here is the correct one, which is http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28913
Do Christians really believe that on some fundamental level that Allah is the same entity as Christ The King?
I often hear that. It seems logical that God, as worshipped by Jews, is the same as for Christians - but Allah? (These questions are non-rhetorical in nature.)
It's always so comforting when Muslims cite the precise verse from the Quran that tells them killing is wrong. Don't all empathetic human beings understand that instinctively? What if they lost their Quran that day and couldn't remember?
OK, so Chapter 4, verse 29 says clearly do not kill yourself. The rest of the Quran tells them to kill everybody else though. And what's with the teacher's lame excuse about the students not understanding "true Islam." Criminy... this is the Islamc studies teacher saying the students don't understand. That's the teacher's job.. to make them understand. Translation: I am a really incompetent teacher of Islam, and ought to be fired by the peaceful administrators of Al-Noor School.
Nice Coulter column. She cuts to the chase, PC be damned. "PC" is a misnomer. It is not morally, logically or politically correct. It's manipulative and "victim mentality" focused.
We must focus on who did this to us. And guess what.. it was Muslims. All 19 of them. It doesn't take Jessica Fletcher to figure out where this case is going.
Ann Coulter bump.
Islam, as formed by Mohammed ... was founded in a region where polytheism was rampant. The moon god, "ALLAH", was selected by Mohammed (most Muslim countries have a crescent moon and star on their flag). Mohammed (an illiterate but smart businessman- warrior - leader - narrated the Koran to a scribe. The early Koran has contradictions with the later writings. (This helped fuel the book by Salmud Rushdie - the "Satanic Verses" ... where the premise is that the scribe for Mohammed actually writes different words than what the "Prophet" Mohammed directs, and given Mohammed's inability to read, the Prophet doesn't catch the mistakes. And the early Koran is more peaceful, while the later Koran has more hate for non-believers. (This is the reverse of the Bible with the Old Testament and New Testament . . . where the New Testament is more on forgiveness, loving your enemy, and persuading people to belive, rather than forcing them to believe at the point of a sword. But even the OT was more peaceful to other people and religions (outside of the Promised Land).)
Of course, the Old Testament and New Testament carry the concept that a Prophet of God speaks the Word of God, and must be accurate and without error, and that God has preserved His Word through the centuries. It would seem that the Koran is filled with contradictions and errors, and would fail the test that the Bible is held to. (Let us not get into the Old Universe/Young Universe controvesy). There are some excellent books that do a critical analysis of the errors of the Koran (also written as "Qur'an" ). Might I suggest: "The Qur'an and the Bible, in the light of history and science", by Dr. William Campbell.
There is lot of info on Mohammed ... but the bottom line is he was more friendly to Jews and Christians in the early times, and then became extremely destructive and intolerant to them in later years. For those who criticize the Crusades as being cruel ... they forget that the Muslims invaded the Christian/Jewish Holy Land that had been peaceful, and forced conversions (accept or die), and set in motion all the ensuing horror that happened during the several Crusades.
Bottom line: Allah is not the same God as the Christian and Jewish God. Islam rejects much of the Old Testament and New Testament; they consider themselves to be Abraham's offspring through Ismael, the son of Hagar (Sarah's handmaid) - and therefore they consider much of the Old Testament, which is about the offspring of Abraham's son Isaac, irrelevant. Islam rejects the idea that Jesus is the Son of God, and they reject many of the miracles attributed to Jesus.
Mike
Moses was never able to enter the promised land.
Jesus was crucified, and Christianity was a persecuted minority religion for centuries.
Muhammad conquered his promised land and achieved victory and power during his lifetime. He was a secular ruler who made war and peace, and collected taxes as well as teaching religious revelation.
I feel that these differences affect the practitioners of these Faiths.
Al Noor is a liar. I have the N. J. Dawood translation of the Koran. My copy has this for verse 29: "Do not kill one another." This follows an admonition to trade among Islamists only. It is not about suicide.
If you think my translation may be off we can look up other sources. Here are three more translations. One by Yusuf Ali: "Eat not up your property among yourselves...Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves"; one by Marmaduke Mohammad Pickthall: "Squander not your wealth among yourselves...kill not one another" and another one by M.H. Shakir: "do not devour your property among yourselves falsely,... and do not kill your people."
All clearly speak of not killing another believer in Islam, not one's own self. Never trust these people. They will lie given any chance. 60 Minutes did not bother to look it up. Ann Coulter did not bother to look it up. I looked it up and I conclude he is a lier.
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