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My name is Adolf (Todd Beamer prayed to a different God)Ann Coulter
worldnetdaily ^ | 9/11/2002 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 09/11/2002 3:37:18 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: TLBSHOW
Well don't forget to start the count with the 3 million black Christians slaughtered in Sudan by militant Muslims from the North during the mid-1990s.
21 posted on 09/11/2002 4:19:41 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: TLBSHOW
Your link is incorrect.

Here is the correct one, which is http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28913

22 posted on 09/11/2002 4:21:08 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Frohickey
thanks
23 posted on 09/11/2002 4:25:43 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: All
I'm not a Christian.

Do Christians really believe that on some fundamental level that Allah is the same entity as Christ The King?

I often hear that. It seems logical that God, as worshipped by Jews, is the same as for Christians - but Allah? (These questions are non-rhetorical in nature.)

24 posted on 09/11/2002 4:25:50 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Lysander
I'm waiting to find anyone willing or able to deconstruct and effectively refute a single one of this lady's articles. Yes, she's aggressive. So WHAT? When will conversatives realize we're in a knife fight with the Left, and platitudes aren't very useful?
25 posted on 09/11/2002 4:28:41 PM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: Senator Pardek
RE:Do Christians really believe that on some fundamental level that Allah is the same entity as Christ The King?
 
Only gullible Christians.
26 posted on 09/11/2002 4:35:55 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
Oops - And Christ wasn't God.
27 posted on 09/11/2002 4:37:37 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: Senator Pardek
No, I can definitely state that the God of orthodox Christianity is much different than the God of Islam. Although Islam to spring out of Judaism, their God is much different in type and actions.

Without getting into the many specifics, the biggest difference is that Islam claims that Allah is one and has no equal and of course has no Son. Christianity believes that God is a trinity. John 1:1. Very clear. Some "Christians" will try to claim that Allah and God are the same. Don't believe them, they do not speak for God.
28 posted on 09/11/2002 4:38:09 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: TLBSHOW
Nice one, Ann. I'm sure the "girly men" wished they'd written this one.
29 posted on 09/11/2002 4:38:44 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: TLBSHOW
The Islamic studies teacher at Al Noor claimed the students misunderstood true Islam: "If you go to chapter 4, verse 29, it says so clear, 'Do not kill yourself.'"

It's always so comforting when Muslims cite the precise verse from the Quran that tells them killing is wrong. Don't all empathetic human beings understand that instinctively? What if they lost their Quran that day and couldn't remember?

OK, so Chapter 4, verse 29 says clearly do not kill yourself. The rest of the Quran tells them to kill everybody else though. And what's with the teacher's lame excuse about the students not understanding "true Islam." Criminy... this is the Islamc studies teacher saying the students don't understand. That's the teacher's job.. to make them understand. Translation: I am a really incompetent teacher of Islam, and ought to be fired by the peaceful administrators of Al-Noor School.

Nice Coulter column. She cuts to the chase, PC be damned. "PC" is a misnomer. It is not morally, logically or politically correct. It's manipulative and "victim mentality" focused.

We must focus on who did this to us. And guess what.. it was Muslims. All 19 of them. It doesn't take Jessica Fletcher to figure out where this case is going.

30 posted on 09/11/2002 4:43:40 PM PDT by Fizzie
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To: Illbay
Well since Ann has found hers and now you admit I have mine, I figured I would show you yours, since you might never find one.

Illbay's nut

31 posted on 09/11/2002 4:47:33 PM PDT by Lysander
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To: Lysander; 24Karet
Nice nut!

Ann Coulter bump.

32 posted on 09/11/2002 5:17:54 PM PDT by Notforprophet
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To: twyn1
Don't count on it.
33 posted on 09/11/2002 5:25:59 PM PDT by norton
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To: Senator Pardek
Jews and Christians both believe in the same monotheistic God - the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and believe that the Old Testament is the Word of God. Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God, who was foretold in the Old Testament, and the New Testament is an accurate reflection of the Word of God - covering the time around when Jesus lived/was crucified/was resurrected, and the formation of the early Church.

Islam, as formed by Mohammed ... was founded in a region where polytheism was rampant. The moon god, "ALLAH", was selected by Mohammed (most Muslim countries have a crescent moon and star on their flag). Mohammed (an illiterate but smart businessman- warrior - leader - narrated the Koran to a scribe. The early Koran has contradictions with the later writings. (This helped fuel the book by Salmud Rushdie - the "Satanic Verses" ... where the premise is that the scribe for Mohammed actually writes different words than what the "Prophet" Mohammed directs, and given Mohammed's inability to read, the Prophet doesn't catch the mistakes. And the early Koran is more peaceful, while the later Koran has more hate for non-believers. (This is the reverse of the Bible with the Old Testament and New Testament . . . where the New Testament is more on forgiveness, loving your enemy, and persuading people to belive, rather than forcing them to believe at the point of a sword. But even the OT was more peaceful to other people and religions (outside of the Promised Land).)

Of course, the Old Testament and New Testament carry the concept that a Prophet of God speaks the Word of God, and must be accurate and without error, and that God has preserved His Word through the centuries. It would seem that the Koran is filled with contradictions and errors, and would fail the test that the Bible is held to. (Let us not get into the Old Universe/Young Universe controvesy). There are some excellent books that do a critical analysis of the errors of the Koran (also written as "Qur'an" ). Might I suggest: "The Qur'an and the Bible, in the light of history and science", by Dr. William Campbell.

There is lot of info on Mohammed ... but the bottom line is he was more friendly to Jews and Christians in the early times, and then became extremely destructive and intolerant to them in later years. For those who criticize the Crusades as being cruel ... they forget that the Muslims invaded the Christian/Jewish Holy Land that had been peaceful, and forced conversions (accept or die), and set in motion all the ensuing horror that happened during the several Crusades.

Bottom line: Allah is not the same God as the Christian and Jewish God. Islam rejects much of the Old Testament and New Testament; they consider themselves to be Abraham's offspring through Ismael, the son of Hagar (Sarah's handmaid) - and therefore they consider much of the Old Testament, which is about the offspring of Abraham's son Isaac, irrelevant. Islam rejects the idea that Jesus is the Son of God, and they reject many of the miracles attributed to Jesus.

Mike

34 posted on 09/11/2002 5:30:21 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: delapaz
The three religions differ in another respect...................

Moses was never able to enter the promised land.

Jesus was crucified, and Christianity was a persecuted minority religion for centuries.

Muhammad conquered his promised land and achieved victory and power during his lifetime. He was a secular ruler who made war and peace, and collected taxes as well as teaching religious revelation.

I feel that these differences affect the practitioners of these Faiths.

35 posted on 09/11/2002 5:33:10 PM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: TLBSHOW
Weeks later, at the urging of the principal, the students modified their answers slightly. But according to CBS, "None of them changed their view that suicide bombers in Israel would go to Paradise." The Islamic studies teacher at Al Noor claimed the students misunderstood true Islam: "If you go to chapter 4, verse 29, it says so clear, 'Do not kill yourself.'"

Al Noor is a liar. I have the N. J. Dawood translation of the Koran. My copy has this for verse 29: "Do not kill one another." This follows an admonition to trade among Islamists only. It is not about suicide.

If you think my translation may be off we can look up other sources. Here are three more translations. One by Yusuf Ali: "Eat not up your property among yourselves...Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves"; one by Marmaduke Mohammad Pickthall: "Squander not your wealth among yourselves...kill not one another" and another one by M.H. Shakir: "do not devour your property among yourselves falsely,... and do not kill your people."

All clearly speak of not killing another believer in Islam, not one's own self. Never trust these people. They will lie given any chance. 60 Minutes did not bother to look it up. Ann Coulter did not bother to look it up. I looked it up and I conclude he is a lier.

36 posted on 09/11/2002 5:51:00 PM PDT by FreedomCalls
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To: Vineyard
Thanks - that is what I had hoped.
37 posted on 09/11/2002 5:55:21 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
Allah is a minor Arabian moon god as I understand it. Not the same as the Jews' and Christians' old Tetragramaton at all.
38 posted on 09/11/2002 6:32:42 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Senator Pardek
It is my understanding however, that the Arabic word 'Allah' is used to translate the English 'God'. Meaning Arabic speaking Christians refer to God as 'Allah'. I don't think that is what you were asking though.
39 posted on 09/11/2002 7:07:43 PM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: ArrogantBustard
Islam; "A cult , based upon the insane rantings of a demon posessed pedophile"
40 posted on 09/11/2002 7:22:23 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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