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UC-Berkeley students planning Sept. 11 memorial receive hate e-mails
Daily Californian (UC Berkeley) ^ | 9/10/02 | Emma Schwartz

Posted on 09/11/2002 10:21:35 AM PDT by NorCoGOP

BERKELEY, Calif. -- Some University of California-Berkeley students planning Wednesday's Sept. 11 memorial continue to receive hate messages -- a result of their widely publicized statements against distributing red, white and blue ribbons.

Students began receiving hate e-mails and phone calls after a conservative campus publication, The California Patriot, ran an online article on the decision made by the event's planning committee not to hand out red, white and blue ribbons during the memorial.

Some students received more than 200 hate e-mails each -- many containing racial slurs -- over the issue.

"You're nothing but an anti-American hate monger," said an anonymous e-mail sent to Graduate Assembly President Jessica Quindel. "You offend and disgust me and other veterans of this great country."

ASUC President Jesse Gabriel and members of his office said they also received hate messages.

Students who received hate messages said they have been unfairly singled out and added the messages have taken away from the memorial's importance.

"The controversy has detracted from the idea of grieving the loss of life," Quindel said. "We're trying to include all voices and are being outcast and seen as wrong, which goes against American ideals. I think that shows the irony of trying to be patriotic."

California Patriot writers said in a statement released Monday that they intended for their article to ignite a reaction but did not mean for it to result in hate messages or harm to those involved in planning the memorial.

"It's important to remember we shouldn't let (the students' decision) translate into vicious telephone and/or e-mail attacks directed towards those who wanted to keep red, white and blue out," the statement said.

Sources quoted in the California Patriot's article, who wished to remain anonymous, said it misrepresented their views and included factually incorrect information.

But editors of the publication said they presented all material accurately in the article.

"It's a question of (them) lying or us (lying) and we have the notation to back it up," said Seth Norman, managing editor of the California Patriot.

Steve Sexton, the writer of the article and former news editor of The Daily Californian, declined to comment on the allegations.

Some UC Berkeley faculty members said the controversy has been blown out of proportion.

"It's really sort of surprising how big an issue this has become," said political science professor Henry Brady. "(The hate mail) shows the depth and concerns and fears that some people have and it's a shame that they've come out in this way."

Last Thursday UC Berkeley Chancellor Robert Berdahl overruled the white-ribbon decision and allowed the use of ribbons that bear the colors of the U.S. flag. In a joint meeting the next day, organizers said they plan to distribute various colors of ribbons, including white.

"I deeply resent the implication that by planning this service in this way, we are unpatriotic," said Berdahl at a press conference Thursday. "We believe it is a disservice to those who died to allow this memorial to become a political rally of any kind."


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1 posted on 09/11/2002 10:21:35 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: NorCoGOP
Anything that takes issue with their position is "hate mail". Anyone who disagrees with them is a hater.
2 posted on 09/11/2002 10:23:41 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: NorCoGOP
(rooster) suckers.

In most countries, the numbskulls would be lined up against a wall and

I hope they enjoy and cherish their freedom in this great Land.

3 posted on 09/11/2002 10:23:53 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Arkinsaw
They and every other nicompoop in this land who spouts PC-vomit that endangers us, should be flooded with even MORE e-mails. They'll keep their little anti American mouths SHUT once they sense the big backlash slap in thier spoiled, pimpled faces.
4 posted on 09/11/2002 10:25:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: NorCoGOP
"I deeply resent the implication that by planning this service in this way, we are unpatriotic," said Berdahl at a press conference Thursday. "We believe it is a disservice to those who died to allow this memorial to become a political rally of any kind."

Seems to me, the exclusion of the red, white and blue ribbons was the political move here fella.

5 posted on 09/11/2002 10:26:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: NorCoGOP
"You're nothing but an anti-American hate monger," said an anonymous e-mail sent to Graduate Assembly President Jessica Quindel. "You offend and disgust me and other veterans of this great country."

How is this hate mail? Looks like an opinion to me.

7 posted on 09/11/2002 10:27:11 AM PDT by abner
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To: NorCoGOP
How can accusing someone of hatred be "hate mail" when the Left does it all the time? Oh, I forgot the double standard...
8 posted on 09/11/2002 10:27:32 AM PDT by talleyman
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To: NorCoGOP
Ummmm, just what are their e-mail adresses...?
9 posted on 09/11/2002 10:29:10 AM PDT by Vidalia
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To: DoughtyOne
I wouldnt mind having an email address for the Quindel creature. She was behind the mock Israeli checkpoints that were erected at berkely.
10 posted on 09/11/2002 10:29:11 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: NorCoGOP
"You're nothing but an anti-American hate monger," said an anonymous e-mail sent to Graduate Assembly President Jessica Quindel. "You offend and disgust me and other veterans of this great country."

Given that there reason for not allow patriotic display was so as not to offend, I guess they failed. Or is it only minorities that have a right to be offended?

11 posted on 09/11/2002 10:29:54 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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We're trying to include all voices and are being outcast and seen as wrong, which goes against American ideals. I think that shows the irony of trying to be patriotic."

Huh?

12 posted on 09/11/2002 10:30:20 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: NorCoGOP
I recommend the students who want only white ribbons should have their own separate memorial assembly -- and to avoid any confusion, they should post signs around their group reading "WHITES ONLY" and "NO COLOREDS" so that everyone will know what sort of ribbon they should wear. That should go over well at Berkeley.
13 posted on 09/11/2002 10:32:42 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: NorCoGOP
I typed 'jessica quindel' into Google's image search and I think this is her (note the berkeley email address below). What a disgrace she is.

Error 404:

The requested URL http://www.asuc.org/government/senate/jessica_quindel.html is not available at this time.

This URL is in a web site created by one of our users. You can contact that user by sending mail to:asuc@ocf.berkely.edu"


14 posted on 09/11/2002 10:33:27 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: NorCoGOP
"I think that shows the irony of trying to be patriotic."

That's the whole point. You leftists have to "try" to be patriotic (and do a horrible job if it when you do). By way of contrast, American patriots just plain are patriotic. Patriotism is not some unfamiliar emotion that we have to artifically conjure.

15 posted on 09/11/2002 10:33:37 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NorCoGOP
"You're nothing but an anti-American hate monger," said an anonymous e-mail sent to Graduate Assembly President Jessica Quindel. "You offend and disgust me and other veterans of this great country."

How was this, in any shape manner or form, "hate mail"? There's no hatred in what was written, just disgust.

16 posted on 09/11/2002 10:33:58 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: NorCoGOP
These "Liberals" should be held in contempt, and they should be so informed.
17 posted on 09/11/2002 10:34:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: NorCoGOP
"You're nothing but an anti-American hate monger," said an anonymous e-mail sent to Graduate Assembly President Jessica Quindel. "You offend and disgust me
and other veterans of this great country."

Seems to me this isn't a threat.  It's an expression of an opinion.  Isn't the expression of this opinion protected by our constitution?

ASUC President Jesse Gabriel and members of his office said they also received hate messages.

Frankly, I don't see this as hate mail.  A careful reading would note that the writer thinks the organizers are the real haters.  And the writer is simply expressing his/or her displeasure with their actions.

These comments are the very ones protected by our first ammendment.  Voices should not be silenced because they reveal differences of opinion.  Those differences of opinion are exactly what it was intended to protect.

Students who received hate messages said they have been unfairly singled out and added the messages have taken away from the memorial's importance.

"The controversy has detracted from the idea of grieving the loss of life," Quindel said. "We're trying to include all voices and are being outcast and seen as wrong,
which goes against American ideals. I think that shows the irony of trying to be patriotic."

Can someone please explain to me how the inclusion of red, white and blue ribbons would silence certain voices?

The defense of the defenseless generally worsens the situation.  The comments I have reposted here conform to that premise.

18 posted on 09/11/2002 10:36:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: LibWhacker; cardinal4
I believe it is proper for people to contact this person and express their displeasure with her actions. But I would hope they would address the specific actions she took, and keep the direct insults to a bare minimum. She is clearly a fruitcake, but calling her names gains nothing.
19 posted on 09/11/2002 10:40:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: NorCoGOP
I recieved an email article from Hubby about the planned tribute Berkley is planning. I can't post it because there is no link with it. Berkley will not include the flag, or red white and blue. Nothing with God in it, and no patriotism, or anything that supports Bush. They referred to the U.S. Flag as a symbol of aggression.
YIKES! What a bunch of weridos. At least they are all in one location.
20 posted on 09/11/2002 10:41:43 AM PDT by Teacup
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