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Reno May Challenge Fla. Results (Whiner Turning Into Algore II)
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | September 11, 2002 | ALEX VEIGA

Posted on 09/11/2002 8:04:25 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

MIAMI (AP) - Florida's first major election since the 2000 debacle was marred by mechanical and human glitches that frustrated voters and prompted Janet Reno ( news - web sites) to consider challenging results that showed her trailing in the race for governor.

Political novice Bill McBride jumped out to an early lead over Reno in the Democratic primary when initial results were counted, but Reno remained in striking distance as votes were still being counted in South Florida counties where she held a better than 2-to-1 margin.

Despite $32 million spent to reform the voting system, Tuesday's primary was tarnished by faulty vote-counting machines, absent poll workers and exasperated voters unable to cast ballots.

Problems were reported in 14 of Florida's 67 counties, including six of the seven that were sued after the 2000 vote. The governor called it "shameful."

"It's deja vu all over again," said Democratic National Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "Even before the polls close, we know that election reform in Florida has failed its first test."

The Democratic race between Reno and McBride remained too close to call. Broward and Orange counties suspended counting by 5 a.m., leaving Reno and McBride waiting until sometime Wednesday — and possibly longer — to learn who would face Republican Gov. Jeb Bush in November.

Early Wednesday, with 97 percent of precincts reporting, McBride had 596,472 votes, or 45 percent, compared with Reno's 577,380 votes, or 43 percent. State Sen. Daryl Jones ( news, bio, voting record) had 154,367 votes, or 12 percent.

Two months ago, polls had shown Reno leading McBride by about 25 percentage points.

"We'll see what happens," McBride said early Wednesday. "I thought it was going to be close, but I thought it would have been settled by now. I just hope this gets straightened out."

Reno had not conceded when she left a meeting with supporters at 2:30 a.m., saying only that her campaign was assessing the numbers. Campaign manager Mo Elleithee said no decision had been made on whether to contest the race. Reno was at home Wednesday morning and did not comment.

"We need to wait-and-see what the numbers look like and what the full impact of today's voting irregularities are," Elleithee said.

Republican National Chairman Marc Racicot said some problems could have been expected in the first election after such widespread changes. The responsibility for conducting elections in Florida lies with the individual elected county supervisors of elections.

Gov. Jeb Bush ordered polls statewide to stay open an additional two hours to handle unhappy voters — but some refused and closed at 7 p.m. as scheduled. At one precinct, residents said poll workers refused to reopen the doors and shouted profanities at would-be voters.

"I frankly wonder what in the hell have they been doing for two years," said Secretary of State Jim Smith, Florida's top elections official.

Smith, a former secretary of state, returned to his old job after the resignation this summer of Katherine Harris. Harris won the GOP primary Tuesday for a seat in Congress after presiding over the 2000 recount that eventually led to George W. Bush's razor-thin victory over Al Gore ( news - web sites).

The state changed voting laws and outlawed punch card ballots after the presidential election. Millions were spent and more than half of the state's voters used — or tried to use — the new touch-screen machines intended to replace punch card and butterfly ballots.

But ballots jammed in optical-scanning machines used in some counties. Poll workers didn't show up, forcing some precincts to open late into the morning. And some Democrats were given Republican ballots.

Duval County officials sued for a 90-minute voting extension in a precinct at a senior center after it opened 90 minutes late because poll workers didn't realize they were supposed to turn on machines themselves.

"It's shameful," Bush said. "The state put up money — significant sums of money — for training, for machines. ... There's no excuse for not having precinct workers in a precinct for voting, no excuse for not turning on the machines."

Miami-Dade County officials said electronic ballots from 31 precincts had not been processed as of early Wednesday because voting machines had not been shut down properly.

"Our community suffered a black eye on a day we expected to celebrate our democracy," Miami-Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billmcbride; janetreno
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To: NewHampshireDuo
FYI, it's not Demmycrat.......it's DUMMYcrat
41 posted on 09/11/2002 10:29:48 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: PJ-Comix
opened 90 minutes late because poll workers didn't realize they were supposed to turn on machines themselves.

Hello? Anybody home?

This is scary.

42 posted on 09/11/2002 10:29:48 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: lasereye
Chads not an issue this time. No punch card machines in the state after the 2000 election fiasco.
43 posted on 09/11/2002 10:32:45 AM PDT by Green
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To: Phantom Lord
Will they be consistent or will they stick to the law as written this time?

The question is rhetorical, right?

44 posted on 09/11/2002 10:35:17 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: plain talk
You wait. They will find a way to blame Republicans.

I was in a chat room that is frequented by both Republicans and left wingers and a came in who did exactly that

45 posted on 09/11/2002 10:43:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Green
Well then do a statistical extrapolation of what the vote would have been if the polls hadn't opened late and if some seniors that were planning to vote for her hadn't died. Reno should get 10,000 more votes at least.
46 posted on 09/11/2002 10:57:51 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: OldFriend
Read to a Democrat; you have fed him information for a day.
Teach a Democrat to read; and you have fed him the NY Times for a lifetime.
Teach a Democrat to read and think; and you've made a Republican.
47 posted on 09/11/2002 11:01:27 AM PDT by RodgerD
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To: mwl1; rockfish59
You go, girl nazi/lezbo bitch!

Cordially,

48 posted on 09/11/2002 11:32:39 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: PJ-Comix
"Even before the polls close, we know that election reform in Florida has failed its first test."

Calling David Bois, Calling David Bois: Please pick up the courtsey phone

49 posted on 09/11/2002 11:38:55 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: PJ-Comix
Like if we didnt see this coming. Dem rats are really lame
50 posted on 09/11/2002 12:10:36 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: Green
I vote in RI and the people at the tables handing out the ballots are well over 70. You actually had to walk around the table to find your own name on the list because they just couldn't see. They gave me a ballot for the Democrats,never looked for the big R next to my name. One yelled at the other one that this was the fifth time that had happened today. That means only 5 Republicans voted in my district.sigh
51 posted on 09/11/2002 12:17:20 PM PDT by heylady
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To: PJ-Comix

52 posted on 09/11/2002 12:30:24 PM PDT by rs79bm
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To: PJ-Comix
Too many backhoes were unable to get to the cemetaries in time to turn out the vote!
53 posted on 09/11/2002 12:32:38 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: PJ-Comix; All
"It's deja vu all over again," said Democratic National Chairman Terry McAuliffe.

Wow, that's a brilliant remark. Is there any other kind of deja vu?

54 posted on 09/11/2002 12:34:25 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian
It's a quote of Yogi Berra, who had a penchant for such expressions.
55 posted on 09/11/2002 12:41:54 PM PDT by AmishDude
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The New Flori-duh voting machine.


56 posted on 09/11/2002 12:47:44 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: PJ-Comix
Any word yet on whether racist police offers were disenfranchising minority voters?
57 posted on 09/11/2002 12:51:49 PM PDT by jpl
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To: PJ-Comix
This would seem to indicate that it was the Democrat political machine that caused the Y2K Presidential election debacle.
58 posted on 09/11/2002 2:18:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: PJ-Comix
I think you all (I am from Florida) should be ashamed of yourself. We don't want problems with elections! It undermines confidence and encourages fraud. I think we have a huge problem with election fraud in this country and I think it should be met with harsh prison terms after vigorous prosecution.

Like or not, we have a two party system here. They deserve to elect whatever idiot they like. As far as the Wookie is concerned, I don't blame her for not conceding. Many ballots in Miami-Dade have not been counted (the first time!). I think we should be upset that this happened, not happy. We need to step back and realize that elections are what we do instead of shooting each other. When you cheat the system or the system fails you, it undermines the sense of pride people take in the system. Jaded voters then rationalize behavior that should make them ashamed. This isn't a sporting event we are talking about here. If the rules don't work, how long before elections lose credibility? This situation is not the same as the Presidential election and we don't have to get even. That situation will _never_ happen again, just because the chances are so, so slim. Lets not do further damage here!

Besides, I would lay even money that the Wookie will pull it out, then get hammered by Bush. We can beat McBride too, but we should respect the selection _process_ of the Democrats, if not the person selected.
59 posted on 09/11/2002 2:30:27 PM PDT by BillCompton
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To: Redleg Duke
If you don't like how they vote in south Florida, you should see them drive.
60 posted on 09/11/2002 2:35:39 PM PDT by mwl1
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