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Fla Elections Returns, live thread! (Update - Reno-McBride a near tie)
none | 9/10/02 | me

Posted on 09/10/2002 6:28:47 PM PDT by katherineisgreat

I'm starting a live thread for election returns in Florida.

So drop by and we can share the returns together! :) _Abbey


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bush; crist; florida; harris; jeb
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To: 1Old Pro
Don't they have rules for a run-off in Florida as neither received 50% of the vote. Since I got the original email from a good friend of mine in Florida that I posted about extending the time to vote until now, I cannot keep from chuckling since this is happening inside the Dem Party.

This looks to be to be totally orchestrated and most likely was not planned to be put in force in the primary until McBride started coming starting closing the gap. IMO this was planned for the generalal election in November but the time table moved up by the Reno camp.

Time to have everyone that runs these elections in those counties to be replaced! This has tipped the hand of the Dems for what they had planned for November -- now we need to use this information and get ready for November!
581 posted on 09/11/2002 7:23:49 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: NautiNurse
Its fitting that Liberty gives Reno the lowest number of votes.
582 posted on 09/11/2002 7:24:09 AM PDT by Naspino
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To: truthandlife
See how the gap narrowed at the end? This is the same thing Al Gore did in Florida, Michigan, and Missouri.

The McKinneys did the same in Georgia. They even said -- about 5 hours after all other precincts had reported "Our base -- south dekalb -- has not reported yet which historically comes in late.."

583 posted on 09/11/2002 7:26:38 AM PDT by Naspino
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To: js1138
Unless the ONLY copy that can match vote and voter is in the hands of voter, it will only be a matter of time before the "temporary" archive becomes permanent. As the record would be government property, it is anything but prudent to believe that the government, and by extension, those that currys its favor, will have a "back door" that makes all the encryption and passwords in the world worthless.
584 posted on 09/11/2002 7:39:19 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
TV NEWS:

http://www.wfor.com/elections/race100.htm

http://www.baynews9.com/NewsStory.cfm?storyid=5342

OFFICIAL:

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/
585 posted on 09/11/2002 7:43:29 AM PDT by The Person
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To: NautiNurse
Will Reno get the military ballots with a late postmark thrown out?
586 posted on 09/11/2002 7:45:39 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
The whole thing is just delicious and I hope Reno takes her case to the cesspool of Florida courts.
587 posted on 09/11/2002 7:50:32 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: steveegg
Unless the ONLY copy that can match vote and voter is in the hands of voter...

Why would it be otherwise?

588 posted on 09/11/2002 7:53:04 AM PDT by js1138
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To: The Person
With 97% counted, McBride's ahead by 22,000. By my calculations, assuming Jones gets 10% of the remaining votes, Reno would have get over 72% of the remaining votes, not counting absentee. This is over.
589 posted on 09/11/2002 7:55:36 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: kellynla
The Andersen thing may be an exception, but corruption in government is everywhere.

Who do you trust anymore? The banks with your money, the church with your soul, the police with you safety, the automobile driver across the median from you?

Wow, what a depressing thought.

590 posted on 09/11/2002 7:57:44 AM PDT by oyez
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To: NautiNurse
VERY interesting. Outside of Union County, let's review the remainder of counties that have less than 100.0% reporting:

Governor and Lieutenant Governor
County %
Report
Daryl L. Jones / Not Yet Designated Bill McBride / Not Yet Designated Janet Reno / Not Yet Designated
Broward 97.3% 11,185 41,333 93,519
Collier 91.7% 966 4,252 3,046
Desoto 0.0% 409 1,714 948
Duval 97.9% 15,372 25,414 26,560
Miami-Dade 82.7% 12,027 27,811 90,537
Palm Beach 83.9% 7,388 33,700 61,076
Sarasota 99.4% 1,936 11,268 9,759
St. Lucie 85.3% 1,798 5,481 7,041
Sumter 97.4% 661 3,123 1,403
Union 0.0% 0 0 0

By my count, that leaves El Reno leading in 5 of the incomplete counties (3 VERY heavily and 3 in counties with less than 86% of the vote in) and McBride leading in 4 (with no margin larger than 1,220 votes or a "% in" of less than 91.7% outside of the Desoto anomaly).

591 posted on 09/11/2002 8:00:44 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: js1138
If the information is stored on a computer system, then it is not solely in the hands of the voter; rather, it is in the hands of a third party (in this case, government) that the voter, enterprising hackers and corrupt officials would have access to.
592 posted on 09/11/2002 8:03:04 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: lasereye
Yes, it is over, but hopefully she'll demand a recount and go to the courts.
593 posted on 09/11/2002 8:03:48 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: steveegg
You may be right in practice, but it doesn't have to be designed that way. The ballot itself doesnt have to have any identifying info -- just an encryption key tied to your receipt.
594 posted on 09/11/2002 8:18:05 AM PDT by js1138
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To: lasereye
Projection time (using the Florida DOS numbers posted in post 579):

Current McBride lead: 34,525
Current Broward County stats (% reporting/lead by candidate): 97.3%/146,037/52,186 for Reno
Projected additional gain in Broward County for Reno: 1,448
Current Collier County stats: 91.7%/1,206 for McBride
Projected additional gain in Collier County for McBride: 109
(Desoto is too fouled up to calculate)
Current Duval County stats: 97.9%/1,146 for Reno
Projected additional gain in Duval County for Reno: 25
Current Miami-Dade County stats: 82.7%/62,726 for Reno
Projected additional gain in Miami-Dade County for Reno: 13,122
Current Palm Beach County stats: 83.9%/27,376 for Reno
Projected additional gain in Palm Beach County for Reno: 5,253
Current Sarasota County stats: 99.4%/1,509 for McBride
Projected additional gain in Sarasota County for McBride: 9
Current St. Lucie County stats: 85.3%/1,560 for Reno
Projected additional gain in St. Lucie County for Reno: 269
Current Sumter County stats: 97.4%/1,720 for McBride
(Union County has not reported any returns) Projected additional gain in Sumter County for McBride: 46
Total projected gain for McBride: 164
Total projected gain for Reno: 21,238
Net projected gain for Reno: 21,074
Theoretical margin of victory for McBride: 13,451 (roughly 0.9 percentage points)

595 posted on 09/11/2002 8:28:39 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: js1138
You know what they say; the devil's in the details.
596 posted on 09/11/2002 8:29:46 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: ovrtaxt
I've missed Larsen lately as I've been up until 2-3 a.m. working the last 3 nights. I wish I had heard that interview!!! All of these self righteous morons keep signing these petitions for amendments but don't ever ask how much it cost. They asked me to sign it, and I told the lady, why don't we cut the pay for all the management of the school system and the board as I think that spending 500 bucks a night for a suite in Vegas for a NEA convention was raping the taxpayers. Needless to say the other 3 people standing there with me walked away too.
597 posted on 09/11/2002 8:35:49 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: steveegg
You've got a lot of details in your projections, but the current lead is 24,000, not 31,000. Burno is picking up 67% of South Florida with 108,000 uncounted ballots. My math says it's a toss-up. At any rate, I expect a run-off, since neither cndidate is approaching 50% and the results will be disputed.
598 posted on 09/11/2002 8:37:52 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
Details, details. My projections using the last DOS numbers dovetail what the media's been gleaning since those numbers were posted. I say, "Head for the magic half-percent Reno!"
599 posted on 09/11/2002 8:40:18 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: steveegg
It would be too much fun if Reno battles the primary results right up to
November 5th. Run, Janet, run!

Crossing my fingers for more Palm Beach and Miami-Dade Reno votes by the newly dead...

600 posted on 09/11/2002 8:48:53 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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