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ON CNN now: OKC bombing Iraq connection

Posted on 09/09/2002 3:22:43 PM PDT by newsperson999

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1993wtc; 911; fredthompson; iraq; okcbombing; sadddamhussein
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To: #3Fan
Let's not play dumb. The Clinton's know who was in on it. That's why McVeigh was taken to execution as fast as possible.

Then, either (a) other people know enough to bring indictments (thus making McVeigh superfluous), or (b) McVeigh was the only guy who did know with any certainty, and your argument is baseless. You can't argue both sides of the case.

101 posted on 09/10/2002 4:33:20 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Then, either (a) other people know enough to bring indictments (thus making McVeigh superfluous), or (b) McVeigh was the only guy who did know with any certainty, and your argument is baseless. You can't argue both sides of the case.

You're making an uncomplicated issue complicated. McVeigh had help to blow up OKC. The Clinton Administration knew that the Iraqis were in on it but kept quiet so they could blame groups that are considered to be on the right. When it became clear McVeigh was going to be the good soldier and not rat out his help, the Clinton Administration ran with the notion that the right was responsible for the terrorism. I have no idea what you even mean by your points a and b above. It looks to me that you're embarassed for taking the naive view that McVeigh was a lone madman the last few years and are speaking uncomprehendable gibberish to get out of it.

102 posted on 09/10/2002 6:55:46 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: ml/nj
You are soooo right - why is Bush covering for the Clintoons? I think that the entire group are trying to cover their butts hoping that the American public never learns the truth i.e. OKC, Foster, TWA800. There is a muslim group that has claimed that they were responcible for TWA800 and OKC.
103 posted on 09/10/2002 7:14:41 AM PDT by sandydipper
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To: #3Fan
Advantage #3Fan.......
104 posted on 09/10/2002 8:36:28 AM PDT by hove
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To: honway
bump
105 posted on 09/10/2002 10:32:32 AM PDT by honway
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To: newsperson999
Good Lord this is ONE HELL OF A STORY bump.
106 posted on 09/10/2002 10:42:11 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: honway
How can you believe something from someone so prone to canoeing accidents?! Bad canoeing is a sure indicator of TINFOIL beliefs.

Next you'll be telling me that all of those OKC Iraqis like Al-Hussaini Hussein were the School-of-the-Americas-trained Republican Guard that Poppy Bush brought over after the Gulf War!
107 posted on 09/10/2002 11:33:10 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: honway; Fred Mertz; mancini; rubbertramp
... believe his status as editor contributes to the credibility of the article

may have also contributed to his death.

108 posted on 09/10/2002 12:03:13 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Plummz
watch what you infer around here comrade.
109 posted on 09/10/2002 12:06:26 PM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
Wasn't that canoeing accident just one month after the article appearedc?
110 posted on 09/10/2002 12:08:26 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
I'm sure it was close on the tails of the SI article.

can't put a date on it here, ari. I have the old SI in hard copy at home, tho. will see if I can dig it up.

111 posted on 09/10/2002 12:11:39 PM PDT by thinden
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To: MainFrame65
I think that he actually thought of himself as a patriot, and an enemy of a rogue government rather than an enemy of the Country. . . he was running his own operation to punish an out-of-control government for its misconduct.

I agree and have thought this for some time.

I think he believed that he had found the resources and support he needed through his militia contacts, when in fact the Al Quaida found him and used him for their own scheme, and then abandoned him.

Never thought of that. An excellent hypothesis! I want to think it over.

And I think the reason he stopped his appeals was that he finally realized what a mistake he had made, and simply never wanted the story to come out.

I have been thinking this awhile. In his mind a true patriot, he might well have had a difficult coming to terms with this himself, even though he never regretted loss of life, especially children.

I believe that his execution without extracting more information from him was a serious mistake, but typical of the justice department at the time.

I'm still suspicious of the fact that Chandra Levy was working on the McVeigh execution when she disappeared and Condit was on the intelligence committee. I'm not at all certain that these facts are unrelated.

112 posted on 09/10/2002 12:19:34 PM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs
I can't back up any of my hypothesis with real evidence, just gut feel and how he looked when he was interviewed. And I usually dismiss conspiracy theories by virtue of Occam's razor, currently incarnated as the K.I.S.S. principle. But in this case I find the new information, and how it ties in with what we already knew, compelling.

Do we all have to put our tinfoil hats on at the same time in order to be on the same frequency?
113 posted on 09/10/2002 1:11:03 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: MainFrame65
Do we all have to put our tinfoil hats on at the same time in order to be on the same frequency?

My tinfoil hat fell off when I saw the shows devoted to how the Murrah belding fell down. It was not chosen at random, nor was it chosen due to lack of security. It was chosen because of its structural design.

Now does anyone know any group that has studied structural weaknesses in American buildings?

114 posted on 09/10/2002 1:15:21 PM PDT by js1138
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To: sandydipper
Oh baby-I don't think President Bush is covering for Clinton. I do believe he has given him the benefit of the doubt many times over, out of a decent and statemanlike desire to remain fair and above board. To help reestablish a tone and a manner of doing business in DC.

I don't think any of us know billy clinton better than our President and his administration. And I don't think any of them respect or trust that blithering idiot, traitor, rapist, user, manipulator, selfish pig.

What President Bush is doing is being patient. Very patient. Can you imagine how DIFFICULT that is when dealing with that thug and his vile minions from hell?

When the discoveries of klintons travestys come from investigations led by the investigators not attached to the WH, they gain validity, strength, deep credibility and are able to reach the people who support klinton. It is a slow process, but almost daily we can denote people regaining their moral and eithical well being and smoting klinton with their newly opened eyes. Just hang on....it will happen. There are enough people out there who already feel deeply shamed of the way they supported that filth...I just know the real exposure has not even begun.

And if you look, really look, seriously look at klinton's eyes and face when his ugly self soils your TV screen, you can see with clarity that klinton knows it is coming. There is a definite OJ countenance covering big billy scumbag.

115 posted on 09/10/2002 2:19:59 PM PDT by Republic
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To: js1138
Would "Osama was an engineer" be a good song title? And I would not be unhappy if this involvement turned into the reason we flatten Iraq.
116 posted on 09/10/2002 2:25:56 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: Republic
This is the most eloquent and accurate reflection of my own beliefs that I have ever seen on FR. Thank you.
117 posted on 09/10/2002 9:26:41 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Pern
Could this be the 'evidence' against Iraq GW was talking about? Enquiring minds want to know.

I doubt that W wants this angle pursued. If this is scrutinized closely enough, W gets his evidence against Sadaam and Wobbly gets a treason charge. I don't see a loss here. ahaha

118 posted on 09/11/2002 3:13:34 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Poohbah
And it was actually rather breath-taking to watch the folks who usually say "Hang the worthless SOB immediately if not sooner" suddenly sound like liberals: "We must try to understand his rage, and what made him do this terrible deed, and see if he will shed light on his co-conspirators."

I never saw anyone post the crap you're claiming there. The people here who were opposed to the rush to execution were saying that execution should be delayed pending a search for his associates.

This is going to make you look like a fool though, after your years of defending Clinton and his DoJ with your ridiculous apologia for every retarded sounding explanation the feds came up with for a feeble ANFO bomb bringing down a "bombproof" building.

119 posted on 09/11/2002 3:27:57 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: honway
I wonder if they have any regrets when the videos are shown of their fellow Americans leaping from the windows of the World Trade Center.

I doubt they'll ever admit even that they defended the Clinton administration's DoJ. They'll just wander off to shake their pompoms somewhere else.

120 posted on 09/11/2002 3:31:20 AM PDT by Twodees
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