What Bad Thing Has Saddam Done Lately?

Various ^ | 4 September 2002 | Self

[Fred Mertz]

I'll make this short and sweet. I have not seen evidence for a reason to invade Iraq or demand a regime change there.

Okay, Saddam gassed his own people twelve years ago or so. There have been multiple accusations of his development of weapons of mass destruction, including biological and chemical weapons development.

All the TV footage I see of Saddam Hussein is about 10 years old. Show me the evidence.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

; )

[Cold Heat]

The most outlandish thing done lately was the payments and promises of more payments to the suicide bombers in the West Bank and Gaza.

It would seem that he is also helping in anyway he can to de-stabalize the ME and thereby hurt Israel and the US.

If we wait until he has nukes he will be in a position to use nuclear blackmail. IE: "If you damage any more radar sites I will launch at Israel in retaliation."

If you use your imagination you can see the potential reign of terror that this SOB can and will initiate.

I believe a ounce of prevention is in order.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

Thursday's Washington Post has an article detailing the discovery,in 1998,by the Brits, of a new breed of Iraqi drone aircraft- experts now believe the drones were modified to spread WMD. 1998 was a big year for Saddam-no matter what he did-no one challenged him!! No matter how anyone spins it-Clinton and the UN are responsible for Saddam and Osama metasticizing.

[Fred Mertz]

Your comments are excellent. Thanks for them. I wish I'd made an equally eloquent intro for this thread. But, at least you know what I'm getting at.

[BrooklynGOP]

Post #7 is like kryptonite to ya... ain't it?

[Cindy]

Links of Interest:

WHITE HOUSE.gov: "REMARKS BY THE VICE PRESIDENT TO THE VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS 103rd NATIONAL CONVENTION" (082602)

Travel.State.gov - U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE, WASHINGTON, D.C. Fact Sheet: "GUIDANCE FOR RESPONDING TO RADIOLOGICAL AND NUCLEAR INCIDENTS" (August, 2002)

FOX NEWS.com: "TRANSCRIPT: SADDAM HUSSEIN'S SPEECH" (080802)

GLOBAL SECURITY.org: "FALLUJAH/HABBANIYAH"

MEMRI.org - MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE - Special Dispatch Series No. 415: "PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY AND IRAQI MEDIA ON IRAQI SUPPORT OF THE INTIFADA" (082702)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "IRAQ DEFENDS AID TO BOMBERS" by Joyce Howard Price (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations yesterday defended his country's aid to families of Palestinian suicide-bombers, saying the payments are an expression of Arab solidarity." (082502)

JERUSALEM POST.com: "SADDAM GIVES $120,000 TO FAMILIES OF HEBRON 'MARTYRS'" (081302)

ALBAWABA.com: "SADDAM SAYS AMERICAN TARGETS ALL ARABS; HAILS PALESTINIAN BOMBERS" [ARTICLE SNIPPET: "...Saddam also praised suicide attacks against Israel saying they will be "recorded in our history with shining letters."
"Whenever a (suicide) attack occurs against the enemy, I feel as if I carried it out myself and every Arab should look at these acts this way," Saddam said (Albawaba.com)"](071602)

FOX NEWS.com: "TRANSCRIPT: SADDAM HUSSEIN'S SPEECH" (080802)

AFTENPOSTEN.no: "MORE REFUGEES UNDER TERROR INVESTIGATION At least three more men who arrived in Norway in the 1990s as refugees are under investigation, suspected of having ties to the al-Qaida terror network. All are involved to some degree in Islamic groups." (082602)

AFTENPOSTEN.no: "TERROR SUSPECT SPREADS FEAR IN IRAQI VILLAGES A suspected terrorist who still has permanent resident permission in Norway, and whose family is in Oslo, is accused of imposing Taliban-like rule on villages he now allegedly controls in northern Iraq. Mullah Krekar is reportedly both feared and despised." (082602)

YAHOO! News (AP): "LEADER OF ISLAMIC EXTREMIST GROUP LINKED TO AL-QAIDA LIVED IN NORWAY AS A REFUGEE" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad, who goes by the name of Mullah Kreekar") (082202)

BBC News: "'AL-QAEDA' INFLUENCE GROWS IN IRAQ PUK Fighters Have Clashed with the Ansar Militants" (SNIPPET: "MULLAH KREKAR: 'Democracy is rejected by Islam.'" (072402)

GOOGLE Search Term: "MULLAH KREKAR"

FOX NEWS.com (AP): Washington. "U.S. MONITORING KURDISH EXTREMISTS - U.S. intelligence agencies have stepped up monitoring of an Islamic extremist group operating in northern Iraq that may have ties both to the Al Qaeda terrorist network and to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, officials said Tuesday." (ARTICLE NOTE: The Islamic extremist group is identified as Ansar al-Islam.)(082102)

IDF.il - ISRAEL DEFENSE FORCES Spokesperson's Unit: PHOTOS: "PALESTINIAN CHILDREN CALL IRAQ TO ATTACK ISRAEL" (082002)

NY POST.com: "IRAQ REBUILDS SITES THAT MAKE NERVE-GAS INGREDIENTS" by Niles Lathem (081902)

GLOBAL SECURITY.org: "FALLUJAH/HABBANIYAH"

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "IRAQI GERM PLANT ACTIVE" by Bill Gertz (081402)

ANANOVA.com: "AL-QAIDA TAPES SHOW TRAINING AND POISON GAS EXPERIMENTS" (081902)

JERUSALEM POST.com: "ASSAD URGES SYRIANS TO UNITE" (082002)

TIMES OF INDIA.com (AFP): "SYRIA'S ASSAD MET SADDAM ON BORDER: REPORT" (081402)

USA TODAY.com (AP): "RUSSIA, IRAQ NEAR $40 BILLION PACT" (081702)

NewsMax.com - HOT TOPICS: "RUSSIA"

[Mo1]

GWB actually has integrity and loves his country.
That's what they said about Clinton. Don't drop the soap, Ben.

You got evidence of that??

I don't ever recall that

[SirAngus]

get off your post#7 horse already...LOL

[Chewy]

I just did and if you want to get personal take it private. Sorry that the only sources you consider worthwhile are CNN, ABC,CBS and NBC.

[BrooklynGOP]

get off your post#7 horse already...LOL

It's rather curious why he won't respond to it. Then again, silence can be rather defeaning at times, don't you think?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Great post. Let's see it again:

And if doesn't happen soon, but let's say happens in 2-3 years? Anyway. I'll draw you a parallel. After WW1, Germany wasn't supposed to stockpile weapons. But it did. It wasn't a secret that Hitler was building up his war machine all through 1930's. But euros are appeasers and didn't want to bother with war, so they closed their eyes and gave Czheckoslovakia to him. We got WW2 in return, tens of millions died just because we failed to enforce what was agreed on after WW1 - for germany not to build up its arsenal.

7 posted on 9/4/02 7:28 PM Pacific by BrooklynGOP

[Fred Mertz]

Good to meet you tonight Chewy. I need to hit the hay. Carry on.

[BrooklynGOP]

Good to meet you tonight Chewy. I need to hit the hay. Carry on.

Pathetic. Run little girl, run from post #7, ruuuuuuuuuun.

[Mo1]

He's not answering my questions either

[Chewy]

Have a good night. Nice to meet you too.

[semaj]

"What Bad Thing Has Saddam Done Lately?"

Breathe.

[Torie]

I said that first. :)

[semaj]

you beat me.

[FreedominJesusChrist]

Fred,

In all honesty, I would fully support an invasion upon Iraq and an ousting of Sadaam Hussein.

You ask: Where is the evidence?

Quite frankly, President Bush will have to make more of a case and present some solid evidence showing the Administration’s claims to the American public soon. Although President Bush will need to be careful about what he releases to the public, as we need to be careful not to compromise any ground intelligence that we do have in Iraq.

I suspect that the Bush Administration will have closed, classified briefing sessions with Congress soon, but given the state of national security leaks that Congress seems to be perfecting these days, who knows who much the Bush Administration will be actually able to reveal to them.

We do know that Sadaam Hussein has used chemical weapons against his own people, killing over 100,000 Iraqi Kurds. He has denied UN weapons inspectors for the past 4 years now. Iraq signed this agreement in 1996 and has not been following their own agreement since 1998. Iraq signed this pact as stipulation for resuming oil exports after the Persian Gulf War.

There is also significant evidence out there showing that Hussein’s intelligence serviced paved the way for Mohammed Atta to board American Airlines Flight 11. Also, Sadaam Hussein has declared to the entire world that he will monetarily compensate the families of suicide bombers and has encouraged terrorist acts upon the United States before and since the Persian Gulf War.

The Bush Administration is probably hoping that Sadaam does not suddenly announce that he will allow UN Weapons Inspectors back into Iraq, simply because it would greatly weaken our case against Hussein. Right now, it seems that the ball is in Hussein’s field. It is said that when Clinton bombed Iraq in 1999, (Operation Desert Fox) some of the intelligence used in bombing these facilities came from former UN Weapons Inspectors.

Hussein is paving his own path to destruction. By using chemical weapons against his own people, he has helped the rise of a strong Iraqi opposition. Hussein is a scared man, as is evidence with his killing of anyone who opposes him, the fact that he moves around mainly in the cover of darkness, and is evidently taking special care of his physical appearance, so that he does not look old or appear to be the “sick man” of the Middle East. Hussein is a crack-pot dictator, whose power is weakening everyday.

The way I see it, there is already enough evidence out there showing that Sadaam Hussein needs to be ousted from power. Either we take him out before he has nuclear capabilities or we take him out when he does. I would rather take him out before he has these capabilities.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Anyone who is an adherent to the new religion of moral relativism could say this...so what?