Posted on 09/03/2002 9:08:00 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Richard Taylor, the son of President Zachary Taylor, was a Confederate general in the western theater. This is perhaps the best and most literate memoir written by a principal from the war. Very illuminating of some of the battles in the neglected western theater. Taylor at one point lured a fleet of Union gunboats up... the Red River, I believe it was, trapping them as the water fell. Kirby-Smith's failure to understand what Taylor was doing squandered the opportunity to capture them. A Confederate flotilla on the Mississippi would have added great complications to Grant and Foote in the west, where the War ultimately was decided.
The Black Flower, Howard Bahr
The experience of a rifleman during two days of the Battle of Franklin. A vivid rendering, a truly excellent book. I'd rate it equal, and maybe better than, the Shaara books.
Freeman was a 2-time Pulitzer Prize winner for his biographies of Lee and George Washington.
Wow! I thought I was the only person on here who knew about Dick Taylor. I have to second that nomination. I would love to see a movie based his experiences!!!
Not exactly a Civil War Book, but close. Check out "Twelve Years a Slave"
This seems logically weak (especially if one puts oneself in the shoes of a slave in the 1850's South) and seems to be contradicted by the following:
With no corporate, property, or income taxes then in force, the governments principal source of revenue was import tariffs; and the South, with the greater number of ports, paid 87 percent of the taxes that the federal government collected to fund its operations and pay government salaries. Lincoln was willing to let the South keep its slaves and enforce the Fugitive Slave Law so long as the Southern states remained in the Union and continued to pay its disproportionate percentage of taxes.
So (perhaps someone with more historical sense can help me here) on one side many countries were abolishing slavery, but on the other side were consuming goods made from raw materials which were produced by slavery condoning countries. As the latter became fewer and fewer, it seems to me that the economics in favor of their remaining slavery condoning states became stronger, not weaker, with the passing of time and the overall decrease in the number of slavery condoning countries. (I also suspect that other countries not listed, such as Haiti, had to undergo a revolution at some point to evolve politically, though of course Haiti continues to have massive problems with poverty, etc. today.)
I have relatives who fought on the side of the Confederacy so I would like nothing more than to believe the romantic notion that the South fought entirely for noble ideals. I also note that Lincoln was no political innocent, following in the footsteps of Hamilton and blazing a path for the cause of federal supremacy over more local rule. I believe that many Southerners, such as Lee, had noble ideals, but that there were many others who were crowded by economics, greed, or a combination, to benefit unfairly from the forced labors of others, and could have continued to do so indefinitely were it not for war. Therefore it seems to me a hard sell to convince anyone that the South could have freed its slaves of its own volition without Lincoln's war and power grabbing politics. In fact, it seems one could make the argument that if the South had modernized its politics and culture and freed the slaves of its own volition, Lincoln as a political force would not have been able to muster enough support to put himself in the presidency in the first place, and the federalist movement in the USA would have been at least delayed.
(An interesting question is would it have happened at all? -- I believe probably so, though to a lesser degree, brought about by other incidents such as WWI and WWII; although the US entry into both wars was somewhat predicated by artificial means, the general fact seems to be that there needs to be some mechanism to permit the US to defend itself effectively and quickly from sneak attacks, nuclear attacks, terrorist attacks, etc., and the old method of having Congress debate and resolve to declare war, then muster an army, etc.-- the 18th century model -- would have left the US defensively weak and open to attack by the early 20th century if not the late 19th century.)
An apt description of the Gilded Age, the corrupt years following the Civil War during which an unholy combination of politicians and businessmen enriched themselves at the expense of others. They were the victorious Yankees, including the Grant Administration, but what would you expect? The type can be identified by the pointing finger of accusation, usually pointed south. Very sharp eyed at spotting the faults of others. Its modern descendant is leftism, which like the abolition movement of old, finds its spiritual home in Massachussetts.
Harrumph. There was nothing "Civil" about it!
8^)
(Bump for later reading, thanks for the ping!)
Barf alert.
What a bunch of crap! The importation of slaves was ended in 1808 and the slave population of the US grew by nearly 4 times from slightly over 1 million in 1810 to nearly 4 million in 1860. At the heighth of the Underground Railroad, only a few thousand slaves escaped each year. And with the slave population increasingly concentrated in the deep south cotton belt, the chances of any slave making it hundreds of miles to freedom in the north were slim to none.
The slaveocrats banned importation of slaves in the Confederate constitution for one reason --- it was in their economic interest to do so. If more slaves were imported it would decrease the value of their existing slaves. That is not even to mention that the Atlantic slave trade was all but dead by 1860 thanks to the efforts of the British Navy. That clause was like giving up Brussels sprouts for Lent!
This southron canard gets repeated over and over and over until it is accepted as gospel, just like the ridiculous claim that the south paid 85% of the total tariffs. The actual fact is that, far from banning imports, the confederate constitution actually protected imports. Article I, section 9:
The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.
Yep, and Chase's actions 8 years earlier did nothing to influence his self serving decision in '69. < /sarcasm> The fact is that the statement in the Confederate Constitution went further towards ending slavery altogether than anything in the US Constitution. It further appeased the small, minute, non existant Abolitionist Party in the union by stating that no slaves would be accepted from union states. The border states knew that slavery was dying out over simple cost. Within 20-30 years it would have died off altogether. Stephens as much said this in his discussion with lincoln (root,pig, or perish conversation. Surely you remember that Non). Instead ol' abe decided that 600,000 men had to die, the nation go into debt 100 times what it was in '61, and his all glorious Hamiltonian Empire just HAD to be built
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