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Doesn't it give liberals a warm fuzzy feeling that cops are there to protect you? <./.sarcasm off>

THIS IS ONE REASON I ALWAYS CARRY A GUN.

Be sure to send this article to your friends who believe that the Police WILL be there to protect you!

Stay safe, be armed!

DCBryan1

1 posted on 08/31/2002 9:15:32 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1; Sir Gawain
PING!

HERE IS A "THE POLICE WON'T/CAN'T PROTECT YOU" +
SELF-DEFENSE IS UP TO YOU BANG!

2 posted on 08/31/2002 9:17:16 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1
Sounds like Mr Black was used as Bait...........SOP at my old department would have replaced that clerk with a cop if they knew/suspected ahead of time.

These POS LEO's staked out that clerk like a lamb with a wait and see attitude.

Stay Safe DC !

4 posted on 08/31/2002 9:24:53 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: DCBryan1
This is outragous!

Why didn't they substitute an armed officer in a bullet proof vest for the clerk?

7 posted on 08/31/2002 9:36:49 AM PDT by RJL
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To: DCBryan1
"This is really not uncommon," he said. "In fact, clerks are probably better off not knowing."

Translation:
We at corporate headquarters and the police don't want the bait or his/her relatives
to know who to go after in any sort of wrongful death lawsuit.

File this story under "They Were Expendable".

And I'm sending a copy to my trusting cousin. I try and try to tell him that
despite the many brave cops out there, what they are really legally bound to do
is just take good notes and try to catch the person who murders you.
10 posted on 08/31/2002 9:42:59 AM PDT by VOA
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To: DCBryan1
We need police officers to protect us and I try to support them, but the decisions made in this instance are indefensible.

I think most of these bad decisions come from the upper level police management. It seems like promotion or appointment to upper ranks deprives many of them of common sense. I have more faith in the average cop, as long as they were good people when hired and received proper training.
11 posted on 08/31/2002 9:59:05 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: *Donut watch
Our men in blue, doing their sworn duty, etc.
16 posted on 08/31/2002 10:41:18 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: *Donut watch
Ping!!
17 posted on 08/31/2002 10:45:55 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: DCBryan1
THIS IS ONE REASON I ALWAYS CARRY A GUN.

This is the point that the libs always conveniently blow off. The cops are NOT obligated to protect you. Courts have ruled that you can't sue the cops for not preventing crime, even in cases of gross dereliction of duty where the crime is happening right in front of them. Therefore, it only makes sense that people should step up and be responsible for their own defense.

Call me crazy, but I think people should be expected to provide for their own self-defense and we should all be a lot less dependent on law enforcement, and "law enforcement" needs to quit prosecuting innocent people for having the terrible gall to protect themselves. More dead criminals means less live ones that go to prison to live off society for free, get 3 squares a day, sleep in a warm comfy bed, watch color cable TV, and get stoned all day because drugs are more available in prison than on the street.

19 posted on 08/31/2002 10:55:26 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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"This is really not uncommon," he said. "In fact, clerks are probably better off not knowing."

Aside from the action/inaction of the police, I hope the clerk at least
sits down with a lawyer and finds out what clause of his contract determines that
he is remunerated, in part, to be an unwitting decoy.
And to determine what benefits his survivors get in case he gets capped the next time.

I'm sure the corporate lawyers will have some sort of winning "public policy" argument,
but this might be interesting if it got in front of a jury.
22 posted on 08/31/2002 11:04:23 AM PDT by VOA
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To: DCBryan1
Um, you can't arrest someone for something they haven't done...

They waited until he left the store so they could arrest for armed robbery... Until he had left he hadn't committed the crime yet...
24 posted on 08/31/2002 11:08:19 AM PDT by marajade
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To: DCBryan1
Funny how they show up in heavily armed teams to arrest relatively benign "dopers", yet allow a unarmed civilian to deal with an armed bandit..
28 posted on 08/31/2002 11:16:01 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: DCBryan1
Investigators were tipped off about the robbery of the E-Z Mart at 3600 MacArthur Drive by a confidential informant who dropped the robber off a short distance from the store while police staked out the business. Police knew the informant would be driving the robber to the store, the records say.
The "confidential informant" is no longer an "unknown informant". With this article they're a "known canary". That "informant" is probably seeking "protection" now from those who "protect and serve".
32 posted on 08/31/2002 11:26:50 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: DCBryan1
What all the comments and this article refer to is the arrest of the perp AFTER he commites armed robbery.

WELL BULL$%it....!!!!!!!!! I don't give a rats patuty about the perp. or about the game the PD was playing. The PD's FIRST OBLIGATION IS TO THE CLERK!

They were so excited about getting the tip to put this career criminal back behind bars they completely ignored their primary responsibility to the public for which they serve and protect. If he's on early release and carrying a gun, he goes back to jail. No games, no extra points for solving a crime, no medals, no newspapers or TV, no nothing! The perp GOES TO JAIL.. long before they ALLOWED him to rob the store he still goes back to jail.

I'm calm now. sorry about the screaming.

36 posted on 08/31/2002 11:35:20 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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Doesn't sound good at all. I remember I once reported a bank robbery about to happen (the hint being these gang looking guys in a high class neighborhood walking in with shot guns).
About 30 minutes later they responded! So I know it can get bad.
38 posted on 08/31/2002 11:37:03 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: niki; Dog Gone
This is an incident that occurred not far from me. I'd be interested in the take of some of the folks who have been active on the threads of the Houston cops' abuse of power. Of course, this is a very different kind of situation, but it might generate some interesting discussion. I thought maybe y'all could ping some of the others.
69 posted on 08/31/2002 12:10:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: DCBryan1
Efforts to reach criminal justice experts at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville, as well as at the Criminal Justice Institute in Little Rock, were unsuccessful.
75 posted on 08/31/2002 12:21:01 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: DCBryan1; Sidebar Moderator
(We can do without any of your editorializing within the article, by the way.)

I have to wonder what the spin here would have been had the police arrested the would-be robber for crossing the threshold of the convenience store with a weapon, or charging him with thinking of robbing it.

89 posted on 08/31/2002 12:41:04 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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ping. :-)
99 posted on 08/31/2002 12:46:36 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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You can't have it both ways. You can't whine that the police failed to prevent a robbery and then claim that everyone should not expect the police to protect anyone. By your line of reasoning, the fault lies with Mr. Black who was armed with a packing knife instead of a shotgun.
115 posted on 08/31/2002 12:54:54 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: DCBryan1; Squantos; Brian Allen; RJL; VOA; RicocheT; Jeff Chandler; coloradan; ...
http://www.nlrchamber.org/government/citydepts.html

Police Department
Chief Danny Bradley
501-771-7101


126 posted on 08/31/2002 1:03:13 PM PDT by Mini-14
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