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The Bible vs. The Quran
Islam Review.com ^ | 08-30-02 | Abdullah Al Araby

Posted on 08/31/2002 5:30:20 AM PDT by vance

The Bible vs. The Quran

By Abdullah Al Araby

The Quran is the Muslims' Holy Book, the same as is the Bible to Christians, Muslims regard the Quran as the infallible utterance of the Almighty. The word "Quran" means recitation. The name was applied by Mohammed to each individual portion of the Book, but was later used for the whole Book.

Mohammed proclaimed the Quran as the miracle that proved his prophethood. There has been, however, much debate among intellectual Muslims on the issue of the miracle of the Quran. Some Arabic scholars like az-Zamakhshari noted more than one hundred grammatical errors in the Quran.

The Quran is written in Arabic poetic prose. It is divided into 114 Surahs or chapters, and contains the religious, social, civil, commercial, military, and legal code of Islam. It also contains stories which occur in the Jewish and Christian Scriptures and Apocrypha.

The Quran, however, contradicts the Bible in many of the details of these stories, including some of the names of the people involved. When faced by these contradictions, Muslims justify them by claiming that the Bible must have been altered. Yet in no place in the Quran do we find the Omniscient (knowing everything) Allah pointing out these altered passages of the Bible, or revealing the correct ones. Such a claim can also be disputed by historical evidence, as well as by the Quran itself, which approved of the Bible, and said so repeatedly:

There is enough evidence to support the claim that the Quran may have been tampered with. Nobody knows where the original Quran is. The Quran that we have in our hands now is called the Uthman's Quran, which was collected long after Mohammed's death. Parts of the original Quran must have been lost, after many of the reciters of the Quran died or were killed in battle. Uthman, the third Caliph (successor of Mohammed) gathered what was left of the Quran, arranged it by length of Surahs rather than chronologically, then burned all other existing copies.

The Bible, on the other hand, has stood the test of time. To suggest that the Bible has been altered is against both reason and historic findings.

Neither Christians nor Jews can reasonably be accused of altering their Scriptures. One reason is that they didn't have anything to gain from doing so, and if they did, they wouldn't willingly spill their blood defending it. In the book of Revelation God puts a severe punishment on those who add to or take away, any part of God's Word. (See Revelation 22:18 & 19)

The Jews were also commanded not to commit such a terrible act. (See Deuteronomy 4:2)

Furthermore, Christians and Jews did not alter their Scriptures based on historic evidence. Many manuscripts of early copies of the Bible were discovered through the years, and were found to match the text we have now. Here are some of these famous manuscript:

The Sinaitic - It was written in the middle of the fourth century, about 270 years before Islam. It contains the whole of the New Testament and a large part of the Old Testament. It is now kept in the British Museum

The Alexandrian - It was written in the early fifth century, more than 200 years before Islam. It contains the whole Bible, except a few pages that have been lost. It is also kept in the British Museum.

The Vatican - It was written in the early fourth century, about 300 years before Islam. It contains the whole Bible. It is now kept in the Vatican Library at Rome.

These and other manuscripts such as Codex Ephraemi and the Dead Sea Scrolls and the thousands of other copies or part of copies of the early Bibles prove beyond doubt that the Bible could not possibly be altered or corrupted.

CAN GOD CONTRADICT HIMSELF?

Many stories of the Bible that have been recorded in the Quran were misquoted and are contradictory to the Bible. Here are a few: examples:

The story of Cain and Abel

After Cain killed his brother Abel, The Quran says that "Allah sent a raven who scratched the ground to show him how to hide the shame of his brother." Surah 5:31. This is not mentioned in the Bible.

The story of Noah and the flood

The Quran in Surah 11:42 & 43 says that one of the sons of Noah refused to go into the Ark and was drowned in the flood, while the Bible says that all three sons of Noah went into the Ark with him and were saved from the flood (Genesis 7:7).

In Surah 11:44 the Quran says that the Ark came to rest on top of mount Judi, While the Bible says that it was Mount Ararat (Genesis 8:4).

The Story of Abraham

Abraham's father, according to the Quran, is Azar (Surah 6:74), while the Bible says that his name was Terah (Genesis 11:26).

The Quran says Abraham had two sons, the Bible says they were eight.

The Quran says some of Abraham's descendants lived in the valley of Mecca (Surah 14:37),while the Bible says they lived in Hebron (Genesis 13:18).

The Quran says that Abraham had two wives, in the Bible he had three.

The Quran says that he built the Kaaba (Surah 2:125-127). The Bible has no record of that.

The story of Moses

The Quran states that the one who adopted Moses was Pharaoh's wife (Surah 28:9), While the Bible says it was Pharaoh's daughter (Exodus 2:5)

The Quran states that Haman lived in Egypt during Moses' time (Surah 28:6), while the Bible says that Haman lived in Persia during King Ahasuerus time (Esther 3:1).

The story of Mary (the mother of Jesus)

The Quran states that her brother was Aaron (Surah 19:28), while the Bible says that Aaron lived 1300 years before Mary (Numbers 26:59).

That she gave birth to Jesus under a palm tree (Surah 19:23),while the Bible says it was in a stable (Luke 2:7).

That Jesus spoke and made miracles at the time he was a baby (Surah 19:24-26). The Bible has no record of that. That Zacharias could not speak for three nights (Surah 19:10), while the Bible says he could not speak until the child was born (or for about 9 months) Luke 1:20.

CAN GOD MAKE THESE ERRORS?

Muslims believe that the Quran is a direct utterance of Allah (God). Because God is infallible, one would expect the Quran to be infallible also. However, by examining the Quran, we are faced by many statements that go against the undisputed facts of science. It would be unacceptable if such errors were attributed to a learned human being, worse yet to attribute them to the Omniscient God. The list of the errors in the Quran is very long, and are discussed in full detail in other books. Here, we have a limited space to list only a few samples. Our goal is to question whether God can make such errors, whether God was in fact the author of the Quran.

Geographical Errors

The Earth is stationary

"He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs." Surah 31:10

The Sun sets in a spring

"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness." Surah 18:86

Historical Errors

Pharaoh built the tower of Babel in Egypt

"Pharaoh said: "O Chiefs! no god do I know for you but myself: therefore, O Haman! light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay, and build me a lofty palace, that I may mount up to the god of Moses: but as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" Surah 28:38

Alexander the Great was a prophet

"They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain (Alexander the Great) Say, "I will rehearse to you something of his story." Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends. One (such) way he followed, Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness." Surah 18:83-88

Ethical Errors

Legalizing perjury

"God will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." Surah 2:225

Legalizing murder

"O Apostle! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding." Surah 8:65

Legalizing deceit

"God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth God make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." Surah 5:89

Scientific Errors

A corps leaning on a staff for a year

"Then, when We decreed (Solomon's) death, nothing showed them his death except a little worm of the earth, which kept (slowly) gnawing away at his staff: so when he fell down, the Jinns saw plainly that if they had known the unseen, they would not have tarried in the humiliating Penalty (of their Task)." Surah 34:14

A nap lasting three hundred and nine years

"So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years, and (some) add nine (more)" Surah 18:9-26

Legal Errors

Scourging the witness

"And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-" Surah 24:4

God ordains taking spoils

"And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to God,- and to the Apostle, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in God and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For God hath power over all things." Surah 8:41

Since the Bible came first, and since there is every reason to believe that the Bible was kept uncorrupted, Muslim theologians have lots of explaining to do with regard to such contradictions and errors in their Book.


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1 posted on 08/31/2002 5:30:20 AM PDT by vance
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To: vance
I would also recommend "Why I Am Not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq (currently in print and available through bookstores in the U.S.). Among other things, he reveals that there are no fewer than 14 different "readings" of the Koran, that all of the existing "schools" of thought originated in Persia, that all moderates and philosophers have been murdered for years, and (best of all) that the "uncreated word of G-d" as expressed in the Koran isn't even grammatically correct in many places, let alone a stellar example of Arabic literature.

What is troubling is not just that there are inconsistencies (i.e., in one Surah it says that drinking to excess is sinful...while another forbids drinking alcoholic beverages), but that there are really two voices: those portions which were written while Mohammed was still in Mecca are more moderate and conciliatory regarding Jews and Christians than those which were written in Medina, after he had gained military strength and broken his treaty with the Jewish tribes who resided in Mecca.

The extremists have all latched onto the most strident and war-like portions of this book, which justifies murder, deceit, slavery, etc.
2 posted on 08/31/2002 5:43:35 AM PDT by SaudiDuck
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To: vance
Why does the Koran need a million footnotes?
3 posted on 08/31/2002 5:44:18 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: vance
Every religion has its big-eyed True Beleivers, including the author of this childish diatribe.
4 posted on 08/31/2002 5:45:59 AM PDT by Seti 1
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To: vance
Oh, and I nearly forgot...that silly prophet labored under the delusion that Merriam, the sister of Moses, and Mary, the mother of Jesus, were one and the same person. Thus Jesus is Moses' cousin in their teaching...quite the feat, given the hundreds of years between the two figures.
5 posted on 08/31/2002 5:46:23 AM PDT by SaudiDuck
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To: vance
The Quran says Abraham had two sons, the Bible says they were eight.

If you have eight sons, you must also have two sons, right?

... Mr Logic

6 posted on 08/31/2002 5:47:23 AM PDT by wotan
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To: wotan
The Quran says Abraham had two sons, the Bible says they were eight.

Who was Abraham's 7th son? And who was the 7th son of Abraham's 7th son?

7 posted on 08/31/2002 5:53:51 AM PDT by Consort
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To: vance
The Bible, on the other hand, has stood the test of time. To suggest that the Bible has been altered is against both reason and historic findings.

Okay, this is where I stopped reading. This statement is absolutely false. Next contestant please.

8 posted on 08/31/2002 6:08:15 AM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Jimer
Johnny Rivers?
9 posted on 08/31/2002 6:12:05 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Seti 1
In your future you will acknowledge that Jesus is Lord, If you don't do so before you leave the earth it will be too late.
10 posted on 08/31/2002 6:18:40 AM PDT by marbren
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To: SaudiDuck
...the Koran isn't even grammatically correct in many places, let alone a stellar
example of Arabic literature.


Now there's a press shocker.
Especially after that recent report (even done by Arab scholars) revealed the very
small number of books published in the Arab world each year (compared to the tsunami of
books in the Western world).

Of course, there's plenty of dreck published in the West, but that's a whole other story.
11 posted on 08/31/2002 6:19:13 AM PDT by VOA
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To: SaudiDuck
The extremists have all latched onto the most strident and war-like portions of this book,
which justifies murder, deceit, slavery, etc.


I'll give them a break on this angle.
It's not the first or last time some yahoos have selectively latched onto
portions of a good book/philosophy/religion in order to "go for the gusto" and grab
anything they lust after.
12 posted on 08/31/2002 6:23:17 AM PDT by VOA
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To: vance
bump
13 posted on 08/31/2002 6:31:35 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: vance
In ancient times it was the common practice for folks throughout the Arab speaking world to send copies of their gods (usually as an idol) as well as their sacred scriptures to Mecca for both display and safe storage around the Kaaba.

Eventually Mohammad had all the idols burned.

To Moslems that is very important. To Westerners, and to more than one Turkish sultan, it was much more important to know that acient texts were buried in the earth, and in caves near Mecca.

Mohammad himself said he was in a cave in the area and reached down to pick up a text to read (allegedly at the command of an angel.)

Forget about the angel for a moment, we have Mohammad's own testimony that there were texts in a cave to read. Whether he or a close confederate read them, Mohammad recited the words to other people.

None of this is difficult to believe, and we do, in fact, have the testimony of hundreds of people concerning how Mohammad recited Holy Writ.

Jews and pre-Judaic Hebrews had followed the trade routes that run through Arabia for centuries. Abraham himself followed those routes. As far as I have learned anything about the matter it has always been the custom of the Jews to bury a worn-out Torah in the earth, the same as the Jews bury their dead in the earth.

The probability of having a Torah buried in and around Mecca is very good. The probability of having even more ancient Hebraic texts buried there is also very good, and we might even be able to find buried texts containing the disposition of property owned by various persons found in the Bible.

Mohammad said changes had been made in the texts attriuted to God. He could say that if and only if he had more than one copy, At the same time he seems to have never obtained a full copy of any of the Gospels or the Letters.

On the other hand, Mohammad probably had more and better access to ancient documents than anyone else in the world at that time since this was the worst part of the Dark Ages. No doubt he made mistakes. No doubt there was no one around to correct them!

14 posted on 08/31/2002 6:31:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: vance
I don't want to offend anybody and I speak only for myself but they're both just books written by people. The only versions most of us can read are translations of translations of translations. Maybe they were inspired maybe they weren't. There is wisdom and nonsense in both. To think that all one has to do or know in life is contained in one book is hopeful at best.

The Sermon on the Mount and the Ten Commandments are possibly the best the Bible has to offer, the detailed rules and practices laid down in Leviticus are just strange. The Koran is similarly detailed in it's rulings reminding one of the FASB rules for accounting.

Flame away if you feel threatened but it seems to me that there is more one has to do for spiritual development than read one book, IMHO.

15 posted on 08/31/2002 6:38:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: muawiyah
Interesting theory, but I think Mohammed claimed to be illiterate (it was "divine inspiration" that allowed him to read the text) and even if he could read, I doubt he could read Hebrew.
16 posted on 08/31/2002 6:38:50 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: vance
The Bible vs. The Quran

Each requires faith, not reason, to be accepted by the respective believers. Arguing over which one is 'right' seems difficult.

17 posted on 08/31/2002 7:11:17 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: vance


I much prefer Quorn to the Quran.
18 posted on 08/31/2002 7:16:48 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: Seti 1
Are you a true believer in the idea that intelligent life exists around other stars? Compare our evidence for this to our evidence that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

As easy as it is to believe other stars host aliens every bit of evidence we have so far supports the idea that we are alone (lets leave off extra-dimensional beings), . As hard as it is to believe Jesus is who he claimed he was, hundreds of eyewitnesses gave their lives rather than recant their testamony of the resurrection.\

It seems there is more actual evidence for the position of the Christian than for the position you espouse in your screen name. I urge you to study the most important question in life for the last 2,000 years....Who is Jesus?

19 posted on 08/31/2002 7:39:13 AM PDT by Ahban
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To: marbren
Get lost, you twit.
20 posted on 08/31/2002 9:01:45 AM PDT by Seti 1
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