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This conclusion has been seconded by a UK columnist for the UK Daily Mail, John Carlin.

http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl?title=UK%20press%20back%20THE%20NEWS%20on%20Sep%2011%20attack&edition=666

1 posted on 08/29/2002 1:41:13 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
And the moon is made of cheese.
2 posted on 08/29/2002 1:44:53 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DrLiberty
bump
3 posted on 08/29/2002 1:45:03 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: DrLiberty
Heeebully Beeebully! Ya'll got yerselves a reee-port.

This dopey article is wrong on so many issues I'm thinking that somebody remotely controlled the reporter's typewriter just to make him look like an idiot.

Do they have typewriters in Portugal?

4 posted on 08/29/2002 1:46:57 PM PDT by dead
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To: DrLiberty
"after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours"

That was the clincher for me. Sheesh. This belongs over on the American hating DU webshiite....

5 posted on 08/29/2002 1:47:00 PM PDT by eureka!
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To: DrLiberty
He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft.

Perhaps the pilots were dead before it occurred to them that the planes were doomed and they should take those actions.

6 posted on 08/29/2002 1:48:30 PM PDT by syriacus
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During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS).

Oh yeah, they had one of those.

Idiots.

9 posted on 08/29/2002 1:52:04 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Poohbah
Here's another version of that "remote control" B.S.
10 posted on 08/29/2002 1:52:23 PM PDT by dighton
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To: DrLiberty
Roosevelt’s duplicity in deceiving Americans about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, which triggered the US entry into WWll.

So..this writer thinks we should not have gone to war with Japan at the time we did? Does he think Roosevelt planned the attack on Pearl Harbor with the Japanese?

At any rate, if we delayed declaring war after Pearl Harbor, we might have lost the war with Japan.

13 posted on 08/29/2002 1:54:20 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: DrLiberty
So it was a conspiracy of the military-industrial complex to justify a war with Iraq?
I threw one of my wife's friends out my house for spouting such anti-American, Leftist BS.
15 posted on 08/29/2002 1:57:45 PM PDT by Spruce
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Ten bucks says this thread - much like the one about Dubya being the master of disguise - doesn't make it to 5:00 Central time either.
19 posted on 08/29/2002 1:59:38 PM PDT by Xenalyte
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Bunk!

1. There were calls from flight 93 describing the hijacking. Unless, of course, the military had some Arabs with knives as patsies to pretend to take over the plane.

2. Flight 77 (Pentagon) took a round-about course in the DC area. No reason to do that if it is controlled from the ground. The pilot was looking for a target, and I don't think that it was originally the Pentagon.

3. It isn't that difficult to fly a plane. Pilots earn the big bucks safely landing a plane in a driving rainstorm with a nasty cross wind. Flying on a perfectly clear day when you don't give a damn about flight lanes or clearing your flight into the 2nd and 3rd tallest buildings in the country with air traffic control isn't hard.

He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft.

4. Before 9/11, the rule was "If a hijacker wants the plane, he gets the plane. No reason for people to die just to prevent him from going to Cuba." You just let the nice Arab man have the plane and let the authorities on the ground worry about getting the passengers and crew out safely. It wasn't until September 12 that the rule became "Anyone who tries to take the plane will die. If that means everyone else dies too, then so be it." (Except, of course, you can't arm the pilots. That would be dangerous for the passengers.)

Idiots!!

20 posted on 08/29/2002 2:00:08 PM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: DrLiberty
It's not worth the time to take this article apart brick by brick. Let's just hit the high spots.

The panel reached its conclusion after "deliberating for 72 straight hours." Any panel on anything that deliberated for 72 straight hours would agree to anything to get out of the room and get some sleep. -- that Bill Clinton is an honest man, that O.J. Simpson didn't do it, that Britanny Spears is a good actress, whatever.

Regarding the comment that the hijackers "could not have become familiar with IFR operations in 45 minutes," they didn't use the instruments. They flew down the coast by looking at the waterline. In New York, they found their targets by sight. In D.C. they missed their target (apparently the White House), because it is short and hidden by trees when seen from the air, and so diverted to the Pentagon.

Only two capacities were necessary to fly these planes: 1) turn the plane, and 2) use the throttle to slow down and drop to target altitude. All of the hundreds of other guages and controls on these planes were irrelevant to the hijackers.

Or, the short version of my comments on this article: God, I love the smell of tin foil in the morning.

Congressman Billybob

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21 posted on 08/29/2002 2:00:47 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: DrLiberty
Crackpots come in all colors, races and religions, with a few flat earthites thrown in.
22 posted on 08/29/2002 2:00:57 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: DrLiberty

And you win today's

Congratulations Doc!


26 posted on 08/29/2002 2:02:47 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: DrLiberty
Those Boeing aircraft have mechanical flight controls.

Using electro magnetic interference (radio contols like some model airplanes) would be analagous to using your tv remote control to flush your toilet.

A conversion is possible (like using old jet fighters for target drones) but that would require lots and lots of money and lots and lots of time, and would be immediately obvious to the airline crews and the maintenance crews that prep'd 'em.
27 posted on 08/29/2002 2:03:58 PM PDT by AzJP
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To: DrLiberty
What a bunch of malarky. You should have put a tin foil body suit on this article.

You could get ten different psychiatrists to believe someone is sane; you could also get ten psychiatrist to believe the same person is insane.

Sounds as if your experts are in one of those camps.

Ridiculous.

31 posted on 08/29/2002 2:07:41 PM PDT by Slip18
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During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS)

You can't just pick up an AWACS at your local Walmart. This report is clearly implying that the U.S. government, not terrorists, performed the attack. They will need much better evidence than that.

32 posted on 08/29/2002 2:08:26 PM PDT by alpowolf
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To: DrLiberty
A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press.

Uh, maybe because they're all full of used food?

Of course, they all ignored the GPS SYSTEMS THAT THEY HAD WITH THEM! And they went out of their way to learn to fly the damn plane!

And let's not forget that everyone figured that if the planes were hijacked, they'd be landed at an airport say en route to Cuba or somewhere! Certainly not embedded in buildings!!!

Just damn. And this moron says there is a Harvard prof who disbelieves it too? How about we run his sorry butt out of the country on a rail?

33 posted on 08/29/2002 2:09:41 PM PDT by mhking
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To: DrLiberty
Colonel Donn de Grand is a nutcase...from another article by him...

The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation against the United States, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.

As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world financial center and the citadel of world strategic military planning), the attack, from a psychologi- cal impact on the American public, equaled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec 1941. The over-riding question...If we are at war, who is the enemy? The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has infiltrated into the highest policy- making positions at the Federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troop build-up and deployment of our military forces, including active, reserve and National Guard units.

The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and lives was intentionally meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic reaction on the part of the US citizens, which is paving the way for "combined UN activity" (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets in both the Middle East/ South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to be ultimate destruction of all national sover- eignty and establishment of a global government.

The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse, which can only be prevented (temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to become known as WW 111. To bring it off (one more time), martial law will probably be imposed in the United States.

More here

35 posted on 08/29/2002 2:10:28 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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You'll love this thread.
39 posted on 08/29/2002 2:18:19 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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