Posted on 08/24/2002 2:54:23 PM PDT by Davis
Recent anti-retiree remarks from Dr. Dov Zakheim, a senior Reagan-era Pentagon policy guru turned Comptroller, have thousands of career families questioning their lifelong support for the Defense Department they served. Zakheim left the clear impression in his Stars and Stripes interview that he, and presumably the Administration, view retirees as both greedy and a liability on scarce Defense dollars.
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Personally I'm getting sick of being a second class citizen because I retired from the US Military.
I want my Military Retirement Reparations for promises given and not kept.
Interviewed by reporter Lisa Burgess of The European Stars and Stripes on July 15, 2002, Zakheim himself raised the concurrent receipt issue in some detail. For the purpose of this article, I have included detailed excerpts of the Q&A transcript (which was published on July 19 in the Pentagon Early Bird news summary), with my own comments added in italics:
Q: And meanwhile, you have health and personnel costs that are sky-high.
Zakheim: "That's right. And let me tell you, if concurrent receipt comes through, that one is huge. The worst estimates I've seen, under the worst-case assumptions, could cost us $5 to $6 billion a year. It's humongous.
"And again, you're talking about a situation that is not new; we've had disabled veterans ever since we've had veterans. All of a sudden, elements in Congress have decided to change the rules, and seem to be more concerned about disabled veterans than all their predecessors have been. And it's puzzling, particularly at a time when we are involved in a conflict, when there are budgetary constraints, and when our budget is as large as it is.
"People are misled. People think we've got this massive budget, when if you take out health care, and you take out personnel costs generally, it isn't that massive at all. And since our top priority is our people, there's no question that we're going to make sure that our people are taken care of, and in fact, some of the opportunity cost of the concurrent receipts money could well be other personnel programs.
"That's another thing people don't realize. We're trying to improve facilities; we're trying to improve family housing; we're trying to improve. There are all kinds of programs for family support of various kinds. How do we do all that, if all of a sudden we have to take a chunk of $5 or so billion, on top of the Tricare for Life? That's a major challenge for us."
Dodd response: Okay, let me see if I understand what you just said. First, if Congress changes the rules, more money will go to those disabled military retirees who presently have to proportionately offset their military retirement pay with their VA disability compensation. So, from your perspective, that's a bad thing.
Secondly, since the current laws have been around for a while, members of Congress should not question the wisdom and fairness of those laws. You wonder how and why they are now so concerned about our disabled veterans when all their predecessors were not.
Lastly, your focus is on short-term family support. You want to put money where everyone will notice it right away. Your long-term focus is limited to TriCare for life, which is already diverting money from the short-term programs you want to support.
Q: It's a tough issue for our readers, because they are the ones who will feel the cuts in the types of programs you are talking about, but they are also the ones who would stand to benefit from concurrent receipt down the line.
Zakheim: "The average young person, 18-to-30 age group, which is the preponderance of our military, I just wonder how much they value the importance of TriCare for Life when they enlist and reenlist. My guess is they probably don't.
"Look at all the people in civilian society who are constantly being told, "put money away for IRAs, because you're going to need it when you retire," and they don't.
"And why don't they? Because the average person who is under 30, by and large, doesn't think about what they're going to do when they're 60 to 65 - I mean, not to the extent you're going to take money away that you need today and putting it away for tomorrow.
"Well, in a sense, that's what TriCare for Life does, that's what concurrent receipt does. It takes money away from today in order to deal with tomorrow, and quite frankly in the case of concurrent receipts, it's doing it for a small number of people.
"A large number people are going to be affected in terms of who's doing the paying, but a small number of people are going to be affected in terms of recipients, and they already are getting benefits. It's not like they're not getting benefits. This is a second benefit - it's a piggyback benefit.
"So you have to ask yourself, if you're a 27-year-old junior officer, or middle-level enlisted person, and you've got two or three kids, and you've got a working spouse, which way do you really want to go?"
Dodd response: Let me see if I understand your logic. You know that it is wise for young people between the ages of 18 and 30 to start thinking about and planning for their retirement. Since most 18-30 year-olds do not want to think about their retirement, you feel no obligation to support retirement programs. You are perfectly content to support only those programs that cater to the unwise and short-sighted perspectives of the average 18-30 year old.
As far as the concurrent receipt issue goes, you see it as a selfish and greedy attempt by "a small number of people" to get an additional benefit. You are not concerned that no other category of federal employees, to include employees of the Congress and the executive branch, is required to relinquish a portion of their earned retirement pay simply because they are also receiving VA disability compensation.
To you it is fair that only disabled military retirees must offset their retirement pay, and your reasons must include that your budget will be easier to balance; veterans have lived with these laws for so long that now it is unfair to change the laws; the current laws only affect a small number of people so we should not change those laws for so few; and since most of the military is young and foolish about retirement issues anyway, it makes no cents (pun intended) to have fair and common-sense laws for disabled military retirees.
Q: People who champion concurrent receipt say that they are paying a penalty, in effect, for being disabled.
Zakheim: "They're already getting [Veteran's Administration] benefits."
Dodd response: To you, those benefits are enough, and they are appropriate. I recently received a letter (Feedback, 7-22-2002, third item) from a 20-year disabled Navy retiree. He has a friend who spent four years in the Marine Corps and now qualifies for 100-percent disability compensation. The disabled Navy retiree is happy that his friend is getting the disability compensation he deserves, but his frustration is obvious when he told me, "Please, understand that I wish him and others like him absolutely no hard feelings, but I spent twenty years in the Navy and get the same benefits as he." I bet you'd be hard-pressed to convince that Navy retiree that he is not paying a penalty for his disability.
Q: I guess the basic question is, what is the bargain you make with the Defense Department when you first sign up?
Zakheim: "I don't know, because it's all sort of post hoc [after the fact]. The people who are making the case for concurrent receipt are making it after what has happened to them.
"It's not a question of right to ask [for concurrent receipt]; they have every right to ask. The question is, what's the tradeoff? And what serves the country better, and more important, what is better for the people in uniform?
"Ultimately, concurrent receipt does not add to the national security. The only way it could, is if one could demonstrate that a person would not enlist because they don't have concurrent receipt, and would enlist because they do have concurrent receipt. And I don't believe that.
"I want to see those numbers. I want to see somebody demonstrate to me that a significant portion of the young people who enlist in our military are doing so only because they expect concurrent receipts. I just cannot accept that, unless I am confronted with the numbers, and then I'd want to see the polling questions. Then I'd want to see who's polled, and them I'd want to see if it's really scientific. I just find it far-fetched.
"On the other hand, if you start cutting back on the benefits that people anticipate, not 30 years down the road, but now, in the next few years, young families, people who are struggling and making a sacrifice. They don't just make a sacrifice on the field of battle, they make a sacrifice every single day.
"These are talented people. Who goes into the military? These are people who are talented, these are people who are by and large intelligent, these are people who are by and large educated, and people who are willing to take orders and work at a job - ideal employees. Instead of going out and making 50 percent more or 70 percent more, they come into the military. So they're already making a sacrifice.
"So the question becomes, do these kinds of folks want to sacrifice even more benefits now, next year, five years, 10 years down the road for something that may or may not happen to them, and something that they'll only receive 25 or 30 years from now - if they stay in the military. I'm not ready to make that leap."
Dodd response: Let me make sure I am hearing you correctly. You believe that those disabled military retirees arguing for concurrent receipt are only out for themselves after they find out the rules and discover that their earned military retirement pay must be offset by their disability compensation. The implication is that while those retirees were in uniform, they were ignorant of the rules. Am I correct in assuming that you would be perfectly happy keeping the uniformed military ignorant of the rules regarding concurrent receipt so that you could stick with your beliefs about those arguing for concurrent receipt?
You graciously acknowledge that disabled military retirees have the right to ask for concurrent receipt. However, you think that helping ensure a comfortable lifestyle for our disabled military retirees, who, according to you, have willingly made a sacrifice every day while serving in the military, is not important to national security. You then describe in detail the type of scientific data that would be necessary to convince you that concurrent receipt is important to national security.
Earlier, you said that you are trying to fund "all kinds of programs for family support of various kinds," such as improving facilities and housing. Therefore, in your mind, improving facilities and housing are important to national security. Where is the detailed scientific data upon which you based your decision that improving facilities and housing are important to national security? Frankly, I find excluding concurrent receipt from funding consideration by declaring it does not contribute to national security, while at the same time funding housing and facilities improvements, a bit far-fetched.
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No mention of military service.
A promise is a promise. Health care for you and your dependents for life (just sign the dotted line and raise your right hand).
A retirement is earned.
Disability Compensation is just that, compensation for injuries, wounds, illnesses incurred while wearing the uniform.
PS: For: President Bush, Promises given are promises not being kept.
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